it's now a case of choosing between who you least care about spying on you - think I'll choose a Chinese phone next time, at least they're not currently engaged in genociding children

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danparsonson a day ago | parent [-]

They're currently engaged in doing all kinds of awful things that we know about, and no doubt lots of even worse things that we don't. Try looking up Xinjiang, Tibet, or the Falun Gong for a taste.

There are no innocent world superpowers.

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Dah00n a day ago | parent | next [-]

No, but China has a better track record than the US.

	▲	danparsonson a day ago \| parent [-]
		I disagree; I think all we can really say about China in this regard is that they have more control over the press.

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anticodon a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Was situation in Tibet really good before China came?

I've recently learned that movie "7 years in Tibet" is full of lies, starting with the fact that the main character was hardcore Nazi follower in real life.

There are a lot of things that we don't know because media are not interested in enlightening people. They are interested in pushing the current agenda.

E.g. Tibet was a poor feudal state with slavery, but you won't easily find this information, because all you can find now if you search for it is: "China is bad, bad, and Tibet is very good, enlightened people, very warm and kind". It is not like that.

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danparsonson a day ago | parent [-]

> Was situation in Tibet really good before China came?

Well I imagine there was a lot less persecution by the Chinese government at that time.

> media are not interested in enlightening people

You're right, the media in China are mostly or exclusively mouthpieces for the state.

	▲	anticodon 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Well I imagine there was a lot less persecution by the Chinese government at that time. Is feudal society with slavery and human sacrifices better? How can we really be sure about more or less persecution by Chinese government if we don't live in Tibet, do not know Tibetan and Chinese, and all we know about those "persecutions" are somebody else's translated words? > You're right, the media in China are mostly or exclusively mouthpieces for the state. You're right, the media are mostly or exclusively mouthpieces for the state. FTFY. There are not exceptions anywhere in the world.