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Atlas667 a day ago

THEY WILL TARGET YOU too if you ever find yourself against western and/or Israeli interests.

Capitalist technologies are the surveillance state incarnate. They must study people in order to manufacture consent.

Remember democracy is majority rule, when have you ever had true control over your political destiny? You KNOW the answer is never.

Democracy =/= trust.

Democracy = control.

v5v3 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Many 'democracies' are not democracies, as you can only really vote for one of 2 parties. The system is fully designed to supress smaller parties and independents.

Only countries with regular coalition governments can be classed as a actual democracies.

maigret a day ago | parent | next [-]

For Europe that hosts many democracies the exact opposite is happening. Previous systems with two main parties are becoming 5-6 parties system, making decisions and agreement, and just plain majorities, harder.

Atlas667 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

The will of the masses is NEVER enacted. This is what bourgeois capitalism is.

Oh you like phones? Well our phone companies require us to directly or indirectly create proxy wars in this region in order to acquire the raw materials necessary.

This is the democracy of western nations: policy hidden behind capitalist interests that the people engage with through consumption.

Its democracy for the rich not for the millions of us.

That's why they NEED to manufacture consent, in order to get you on board with murder and fabricated poverty in order to have goods and services.

beeflet a day ago | parent [-]

>Oh you like phones? Well our phone companies require us to directly or indirectly create proxy wars in this region in order to acquire the raw materials necessary.

I think that is the will of the masses.

I've got this fairphone in my pocket that has a replaceable cobalt-free battery and a replaceable OS for a reasonable price. But people by-and-large don't want fairphones, they want iphones.

The third worlders fighting over cobalt don't want peace, they want wealth for themselves.

People don't want niche third parties and alternative stuff, they want to be part of a larger cultural group.

Captialism is based on individual voluntarism, and the problems you describe are not caused by manufactured sentiment but a lack thereof. The problems are caused by the distributed actions of a silent majority, as opposed to some greater rational plan.

Atlas667 18 hours ago | parent [-]

> The third worlders fighting over cobalt don't want peace, they want wealth for themselves.

They are enabled into fighting by big, huge interests. They ship them weapons and rationales.

Who are the customers in the end? Western nations. They create the abject poverty, they use poor governments to exploit and enslave their own people. There is no "poverty" in the world only exploitation. All poverty is fabricated and sustained.

Why is it that Mali is one of the poorest nations on earth but is also one of the top 10 exporters of gold? How does that work?

Capitalism is not voluntarism. That is the myth of philosophical liberalism.

To say that someone who owns as much wealth as a few million people is equal to those same millions of persons who directly own nothing except credit(debt)? It's a myth.

Voluntarism would only be true if we were on equal economic standing. Therefore voluntarism implies that no one can be coerced or leveraged, its a moot and infantile viewpoint of social dynamics.

The "silent majority" has no real way to speak. You choose candidates based on talking points who can then REALLY do anything they please. That is called "trusting campaigns", not democracy.

In reality what happens in elections is that we are choosing a group of people to enact policies based on the market-demands of a society that cannot control its market/production. There is a huge disconnect. It's not a real influence WE have. It's an influence that is given.

IE. The majority of people dont want to use plastic materials for anything related to their consumption. But plastic is cheap and easy to produce. I'm sure that if given a choice people would rather their society work a bit more, spend a bit more of human-energy if it means we dont have nuts full of microplastics.

It is how we produce that determines what choices we have, and how we produce is determined by market dynamics which are reduced to sustainability of production and profits. It is profits that determines production, not consumers' will.

So tell me: if we dont directly control the options we have, but you say we are making a choice, what is that?

There is another word for that. Coercion, manipulation.

I dont want child soldiers killing for control over resources or kids mining for 12 hours a day, I want a good, cheap phone. It is not the same.

Is there really no other way? I would sure as hell try to have it any other way.

Whoever conflates these is doing so because they profit off of it, not because its the only way.

In capitalism the heads of production and their profits determine the directions of our societies.

weatherlite a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> THEY WILL TARGET YOU too if you ever find yourself against western and/or Israeli interests.

I guess you shouldn't find yourself against Western and/or Israeli interests then. It's time you learned to love Big Brother.