| ▲ | boramalper 2 days ago |
| > AppCloud—pre-installed on Samsung’s A and M series smartphones. Samsung’s A and M series smartphones are their cheapest models so their buyers probably cannot afford better phones. I don’t know of any other brands selling in the region with similarly priced models that have better privacy practices than Samsung either—they’re all the same at that price point I’m afraid. |
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| ▲ | anonymars a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| In my case I wanted a damn SD card slot. And more than 2 years of security updates. |
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| ▲ | lmm a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Sony still sells flagship phones with an SD slot. I wish my Xperia was cheaper but other than that I'm very happy with it. | | | |
| ▲ | pomian a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Motorola. Plus it still has an audio port. | | |
| ▲ | anonymars 20 hours ago | parent [-] | | I miss the flashlight chop, but at the time I moved away updates were short and migration was "you're on your own" |
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| ▲ | imp0cat a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ano now you see why Samsung is able to provide all that at an attractive price. The real costs are hidden. | | |
| ▲ | anonymars 20 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The more expensive phones don't have SD card slots! But yeah, presumably in the cheaper markets the Candy Crush whales are subsidizing the phones. Like with Windows these days. Anyway time to go back to playing Fortnite and Marvel Rivals | |
| ▲ | more-nitor a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | hmm have you actually read the article? did you find anything of "substance" other than hand-wavy "this company is from israel, so must be mosad" or "has notorious for its questionable practices" (without even giving actual examples or incidents)? I mean, if I was the mosad guy planting a deal with samsung, I wouldn't even name the app "AppCloud" heck, why would you even make it appear to the user? this is a classic competitor-bashing article -- no substance, only hand-wavy "this guys bad!" I'm guessing this can be traced to others like xiami/huawei/etc who definitely want to get samsung's slice of the market there |
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| ▲ | j-bos a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Motorola has well priced excellent phones with minimal bloat. |
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| ▲ | andrewflnr 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | I wasn't going to give them a plug but this is in fact where I landed. The ability to install other ROMs was also a factor. |
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| ▲ | rs186 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| From first hand experience, I can confirm that AppCloud is installed on certain carrier versions of S series phone as well. |
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| ▲ | chaosbolt a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| No there are lots of Chinese phones with minimal bloatware, like the nothing phone cmf 1, sure they only come with 2 years of updates but what you gonna do at that price... If you're in the middle east, I'm sure you'd rather be spied on by China. Do you imagine that shit? You're a nuclear scientist, working on a program for generating electricity, your country is open to being audited and complies with the restrictions and has no weapon's program, one day you come home and then a fucking rocket comes right inside your appartment and kils you and your whole family. Ain't that a bitch? I get Khamas was hiding there too...
And since they have all that precise rockets that can take a single appartment down, why did they reduce Gaza to rubble? The ramifications of this make me sick: evil not only wins but also writes history... And yeah the midwits here will unironically look you in the eye and explain how killing children is ok because of this of that... You being able to explain horrors doesn't make you smart or pragmatic, it makes you have no self respect and makes your personal boundaries weak, and the same mind that finds arguments to cope with the horror his tax money funds will find arguments to cope with a lot more until it's his turn on the grinder and by then it'll be too late. |
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| ▲ | hedora 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Looking around, you can get an A series or unlocked iPhone 13 new from a prepaid mvno for $0. A refurbished iPhone 13 is $300 on amazon, which is close to the cheapest M ($250). I can’t find new 13’s for sale except via budget carriers. (Sent from my 12 mini which is better than all that followed it: $200-ish for excellent condition, refurbished.) |
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| ▲ | boramalper a day ago | parent | next [-] | | > A refurbished iPhone 13 is $300 on amazon Is this Amazon US? Because even in Ireland, iPhone 16 costs 41% higher than in the US (979 EUR = 1,128 USD in Ireland vs 799 USD in the US). | | |
| ▲ | beagle3 a day ago | parent [-] | | Half of the difference is likely VAT, which is included in European listings but the similar US sales tax is more often NOT included in listings. (Some US states have no sales tax, but most do) |
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| ▲ | bigyabai a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | You're better off getting a preowned Pixel to flash with a secure ROM in this scenario. Getting an iPhone won't help if you if later down the line Apple decides to push an OTA update that forces the same functionality. A Pixel won't protect you from every vulnerability, but it goes much further towards stopping these sorts of attacks than the iPhone does. Now hey, I won't suggest that Apple would stoop as low as Samsung has here. But discerning customers might not want Tim Apple's phone if he's been cozying up to a crusty politician that can remember to stay for dinner but can't recall his name. |
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