| ▲ | uncircle 2 days ago |
| All languages are a wasteland of abandoned packages, i.e. there is a very long tail of stuff no one has maintained for years. It’s all relative to the mindshare. For its size, Elixir is doing quite well. |
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| ▲ | mrcwinn 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| It's not the long tail. It's that the HEAD of packages in Elixir are also often poorly maintained or not maintained. The fundamental question for any developer: can I be productive quickly? Despite all that Elixir has going for it, the answer is often "no." Want a first-party client library for the service you're using? Typically the answer is "too bad, Elixir developer." And writing your own Finch or Req wrapper for their REST endpoint simply isn't a valid answer. >For its size, Elixir is doing quite well. I'm actually arguing the opposite. Elixir is not doing well because of its size. So how can that be influenced and changed? |
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| ▲ | prophesi 2 days ago | parent [-] | | What packages in Elixir have you found unmaintained/missing in the ecosystem? Genuinely curious. | | |
| ▲ | AlchemistCamp 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Probably the highest profile and most consistent example would be Stripe. The most popular Stripe wrapper for Elixir’s docs point to a 2019 Stripe API version: https://github.com/beam-community/stripity-stripe Worse still, the quality of Stripe’s own docs have really degraded this decade for anyone not using a language they have an SDK for. Most of their newer docs assume m have a drop-down toggle for on backend language with a few popular languages and no option for “other”. Example: https://docs.stripe.com/billing/quickstart None of this is a fault of anyone working on Elixir or Phoenix but it definitely has an effect of discouraging some of the fledgling entrepreneur types who Elixir would otherwise be a near perfect fit for, as Rails was in the late aughts. | |
| ▲ | movedx01 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | anything OAuth | | |
| ▲ | uncircle a day ago | parent [-] | | There is an excellent (maintained, funded, audited AND with official certification) erlang/Elixir library for that: https://github.com/erlef/oidcc I have just shipped a production service centered around OAuth and interfacing with OpenID Connect servers. |
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| ▲ | erichocean 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Most languages require maintenance. Some languages—Clojure is a good example—have packages from 10 years ago, entirely unmaintained, that still work great because no maintenance is needed. |
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| ▲ | arrowsmith 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | This is also true for Elixir though. A lot of "unmaintained" Elixir packages still work fine. | | | |
| ▲ | spiderice 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | In my experience, Elixir is very much on that end of the spectrum as well. I'm wondering if GGP just considers packages that don't have updates for 6 months as "unmaintained" or "dead" because they come from Javascript world where everything is, well... you know. | | |
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