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whalesalad 15 hours ago

self hosting psql is trivial - what is the scary part? thats how we used it for decades until things like RDS came around.

sgarland 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I would never say that self-hosting anything is trivial. Linux administration, tuning, and troubleshooting can be learned, obviously, and the same is true of RDBMS. Neither is a trivial skillset if you want to actually be able to run stuff at scale, though. There's a massive difference between 25 QPS and 25,000 QPS (TFA states ~40 replicas, and an aggregate of 1,000,000 QPS).

That shouldn't deter anyone from trying, though. You can't learn if you don't try.

olalonde 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Back in the 2000s, Database Administrator (DBA) was a pretty popular job title, and they usually got paid way more than regular software developers. It probably wouldn’t have been like that if managing databases was "trivial".

lossolo 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, that's baffling to me too. I started self-hosting my databases with MySQL 21 years ago, before the cloud even existed.

edoceo 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Before the cloud? More than 21 years ago that damn cloud icon was in every Visio network diagram.

dragonwriter 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The popularity of the cloud icon in diagrams well precedes the term “cloud computing” being coined for on-demand scalable (usually, but not always, remote-hosted) infrastructure and services that accompanied the explosion of such services in about the mid-00s.

lossolo 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Before the cloud?

Yes, the cloud, in the modern sense (as in, on-demand scalable infrastructure like AWS), was just beginning to emerge back then, AWS launched S3 and EC2 in 2006 so 19 years ago. Other cloud services followed over the next several years.

dboreham 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Before that it was on whiteboards.