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Yes. The point is that for some reason dB seems particularly susceptible to people dropping the units.

For instance, I've heard loudness of sounds described in decibels for my whole life, and first saw the actual units people are describing when I read this article and thread today.

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drob518 2 days ago | parent [-]

That’s because you’re a casual observer. If you’re an audio engineer, recording things, designing microphones, amps, or speakers, then you’d know it. Trust me. I’m a digital electrical engineer (computer engineering, basically). I thought that dBs were weird, too. My dad worked in microwave communications systems for his career and dBs are perfectly natural for him. Ditto my daughter who is an audio engineer. Dropping units when you’re working in a particular field is quite common, as who wants to be needlessly wordy when it’s redundant and everyone in the industry understands it? IMO, this article is just the author raging about his own ignorance.

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sanderjd a day ago | parent | next [-]

That's the whole point. You're failing to communicate clearly. You think it's fine because you're used to it. But it's bad. That you are used to and comfortable with something does not imply that it is not bad.

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viraptor 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

There are two paths: "it was weird but then I got used to it, you're just ignorant" or "it was weird, I got used to it, but we should improve the situation". I know which side I want to be on. Even if it takes decades like the data SI prefixes.

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drob518 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

You’re discounting familiarity as being stupid. The real path is “it was weird but once I spent some time with it, it made perfect sense.”

	▲	sanderjd a day ago \| parent \| next [-]
		No, it doesn't make perfect sense. It's a bad practice to leave off units. You just got used to it and seem to have developed pride in being in the in-crowd of people comfortable with an unclear jargon, and that has now blinded you to a bad status quo. Many such cases!
	▲	JadeNB a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> You’re discounting familiarity as being stupid. The real path is “it was weird but once I spent some time with it, it made perfect sense.” I don't think either of your parent's paths say that: > There are two paths: "it was weird but then I got used to it, you're just ignorant" or "it was weird, I got used to it, but we should improve the situation". I know which side I want to be on. Even if it takes decades like the data SI prefixes. I believe that they're saying that, yes, experts get used to it, after which it makes complete sense (as would any arbitrary but consistent convention, once you got used to it), but, in any living field, there will constantly be non-experts looking to become experts. If there is a way to make the process easier for them while not introducing any lack of precision that would hamper experts, then why not?

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klodolph a day ago | parent | prev [-]

What’s to improve? I think the situation works well for people who work in the fields that use dB.

	▲	sanderjd a day ago \| parent [-]
		The improvement would be to specify the units you're working with, as is well known best practice in all science and engineering disciplines.