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CPLX a day ago

You know I’ve seen this explanation a million times for decades and it’s always just a tiny bit wrong.

It’s a small distinction, but actually if the band showed up and found all the brown M&Ms still there the plan would have already been a failure.

The reason it was in the contract was to make sure the promoter had read the contract before signing it and understood what they were getting into.

Band riders are almost invariably redlined. Bands ask for all sorts of crazy shit and you cross out stuff you can’t provide or give a substitute brand name (like if the venue has an exclusive vendor relationship with Coke instead of Pepsi stuff like that) and then you work out any kinks and finalize it.

The reason to put the M&M clause in there is to get the promoter to strike the clause during the contracting process because any competent promoter will read every line carefully and strike something like that.

So when they do you know they read it and know what they are doing are comfortable signing a deal with them.

You would never want to be arriving at the venue with the clause still in force, that’s a sign you have a larger problem.

Source: I was a concert promoter in the 90’s

lmm a day ago | parent | next [-]

Roth's own statements in his autobiography ( as quoted on https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brown-out/ ) contradict that; they were playing in universities and the like that weren't used to hosting big technical band shows and probably didn't have dedicated band promoters in that era.

frederikvs 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Removing the brown ones from a bowl of M&Ms is a 5 minute job that can be handled by anyone. I would expect a lot of people would go "well that's a bit eccentric, but if it makes the band happy, why not".

I doubt the band would say "you didn't redline this weird but inconsequential request, we can't work together.

If they wanted to be sure the redlining process worked, they should have put in something like "remove all fire extinguishers from backstage".

IAmBroom a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's both. Compliance statements don't prove that something will be complied with; they prove intent to do so. On-site test proves it was complied with.

Source: I am a systems engineer.

red_admiral 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's rarely a brand issue with M&Ms though? I'd expect a competent promoter would read it and charge a reasonable amount for that line item. Band asks for crazy shit, you quote an almost-crazy price for it.