| ▲ | torginus 8 hours ago |
| BYD's allowed to sell in Europe. They're not crushing the market here. They're not substantially cheaper, or better for what they offer for the price compared to other manufacturers. |
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| ▲ | goosejuice 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| BYD could slash european prices by quite a bit. They price them competitively to take advantage of the margin. The increase in price compared to their domestic MSRP is pretty wild, 2x in some cases. In a race to the bottom, they will win. |
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| ▲ | jiehong 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| EU import taxes designed to make them less cheap than local cars do that. |
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| ▲ | kasey_junk 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | China has one of the least free trade regimes in the world, their currency controls alone amount to potentially more than Euro tariffs on cars and that’s just one part of their governmental stacking of the deck for their manufacturers. I think it’s easy to look at the outputs of their industries and compare them extremely favorably to the outputs elsewhere, especially in EV. But once you start comparing tariff adjusted pricing it gets much trickier much faster. |
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| ▲ | herbst 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Within only a few months I see more Chinese Electric cars than Tesla (or us cars generally) on swiss streets. Depending on what you are looking for they are WAY cheaper than comparable cars. |
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| ▲ | Sammi 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | VW is selling more EVs in Europe than BYD. | | |
| ▲ | herbst 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | VW is not an American car maker. There are way more European cars in Switzerland than either Chinese or US. Obviously. Also more Japanese tho |
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| ▲ | mikrotikker 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | No way I'd trust them. When you crash them or they have a battery fault, the doors lock you inside before the battery catches fire. Many videos of this happening inside China with one recent event in the West. | | |
| ▲ | motorest 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > No way I'd trust them. When you crash them or they have a battery fault, the doors lock you inside before the battery catches fire. This matches reports from Tesla users. The cybertruck is specially prone to this sort of design problems. | | |
| ▲ | DrammBA 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Why is that a common failure mode in a crash? I can't think of a reason or bug that would lead to the doors locking after a crash. | |
| ▲ | EasyMark an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Only cybertrucks I've heard about catching on fire where the ones purposely set on fire. While I'm sure it happens I doubt it's any higher than any other vehicle on the road |
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| ▲ | dubcanada 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Are there not similar videos of Tesla, or other electric cars doing the exact same thing? | |
| ▲ | yakz 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There's a mechanical latch release handle integrated into the doors, but they are very much not meant to be used during normal operation and are designed to be inconspicuous. This seems to cause at least some people to fail to operate them during a fast-paced emergency situation. | |
| ▲ | herbst 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That sounds like some kind of tiktok scare lol |
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| ▲ | atombender 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The EU has imposed tariffs and levies on BYD, totaling 27% [1]. [1] https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/chinese-e... |
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| ▲ | doctorpangloss 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You're right, but comparing Switzerland to America... You need a car to live in 90% of the USA. That said, talking only about specs or prices is pretty reductionist. If anyone on this forum could forecast car sales based on pre-delivery marketing, you know, become a billionaire investor. |
