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| ▲ | mapt an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | There's a question about his actual goals in government. He's an ambitious person. And AI enables a degree of surveillance state that we find it difficult to even begin to imagine. All the logistical difficulties of something like Orwell's 1984, of the Stasi having 1/3 of Berlin on the books as informants against the other 2/3, go away completely. We have more cameras than ever. Every person gets to enjoy the kind of focus that went into tracking down Luigi. DOGE has exfiltrated all our sensitive databases to servers that they control; Every 'Chinese Wall' intended to ensure some kind of separation of concerns has been broken down, almost certainly including various formally classified intelligence-gathering campaigns. You can't necessarily stuff that genie back in the bottle. If somebody wanted to be... not president, but authoritarian leader of a post-democracy, Musk would be well positioned technologically. It wouldn't be inconceivable to set up an AI to do all the same sort of fraud & identity theft attacks against an individual that for-profit blackhats do, or that a Kiwifarms harassment campaign can do, without much of any actual staffing. Only DOGE starts out with your social security number, your tax records, your drivers' license, license plate reader records, web history, everything. That individual could be a Wall Street Journal editor who wrote something Musk dislikes, or ten thousand Redditors who are making fun of Teslas. | |
| ▲ | motorest 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > And the worst thing is that Elon could've been a living legend by building/funding colleges and schools focused on the tech his companies need, software development, robotics etc. Could he, though? I mean, he might have the cash, but if you look at his history you don't see that much interest or respect for basic academic principles, or even any basic academic achievement whatsoever. He conveys an image of someone who is mentally trapped in prepubescence, and who repeatedly does things that a prepubescent kid does to try to gather admiration. I meant who desperately tries to pass themselves off as elite gamers? How long will it take until he moves on to DJing? That's not someone who has any interest in founding education institutions. The man does have an army of terminally online sycophants, which I now wonder whether they are astroturfed. | | |
| ▲ | e40 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I think the point is he could if he was a different person. | | |
| ▲ | motorest 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | > I think the point is he could if he was a different person. That statement is pointless. The critical factor is not money, it's willingness. You do not even need to be the world's richest man to put together a school. There are pro athletes with a fraction of the wealth that already do meaningful investments in education. |
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| ▲ | voidspark 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | He has two degrees. BA in Physics and BSc in Economics | | |
| ▲ | motorest 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | > He has two degrees. BA in Physics and BSc in Economics You should verify your claims https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/musk-physics-degree/ From the article: > Musk's past statements about his educational background, however, have been, at best, imprecise. He has claimed on several occasions to have received a physics degree in 1995 — a claim that was never fully true but which may have aided Musk's early business career. | | |
| ▲ | rascul 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The Snopes article confirms the comment you're replying to. The sentence you left out, before your quote: > The University of Pennsylvania considers Musk to be a graduate of both the economics department and the physics department. And right above that, from the University of Pennsylvania: > Elon Musk earned a B.A. in physics and a B.S. in economics (concentrations: finance and entrepreneurial management) from the University of Pennsylvania. The degrees were awarded on May 19, 1997. | |
| ▲ | voidspark 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Musk Derangement Syndrome. Please get professional help. | |
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| ▲ | weberer 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >Does Elon Musk Have an Undergraduate Degree in Physics? >Rating: True >Musk has on previous occasions claimed he received this degree in 1995, but the University of Pennsylvania says it was awarded in 1997. What was the point of your comment? |
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| ▲ | le-mark 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Elon has proven to truly be the dumbest smart guy ever. He alienated Tesla’s core customers; tree hugging liberals, and anyone who cares about sustainability. The GOP nor their voters care and never will. I called this Tesla stock crash months ago; did not act on it though. | | |
| ▲ | rco8786 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | One interesting thing is that he seems completely unaware that he is the problem. Stepping back from DOGE to focus on Tesla again. He thinks that him getting closer to Tesla will help save the brand, when it's exactly his association with it that caused the damage in the first place. The best thing he could do for Tesla would be to step aside. > I called this Tesla stock crash months ago TSLA is currently up 5% MoM despite really, really horrible earnings and outlook. The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent sometimes. | | |
| ▲ | klntsky 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't think stock prices matter as much to him (everybody knows there are lots of expectations baked in the price). | | |
| ▲ | rco8786 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Nor do I, I'm sure he's aware it's propped up on nothing but fumes and vibes. I was just commenting on OP wishing they had shorted TSLA months ago. Easy to say in hindsight, is all. |
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| ▲ | skellera 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think less people care about it politically than you think. Most people I know who have Teslas stand by the product even through Elon’s dumb shit. I think people care more about their own convenience. There’s nothing else in our market that’s even comparable. People talk a lot of shit and it wasn’t great to start but FSD is on a different level now, especially on newer cars like the new Model Y. Having a car that mostly drives itself is the best purchase I’ve ever made. It doesn’t seem to be slowing down sales in Seattle. New Model Ys are everywhere here. | | |
| ▲ | isoprophlex 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | My dude I'm european and unless you have a "i hate elon too" sticker on your tesla, people gonna cut you off, spit on your car, do nazi salutes at you while you drive. The resale value of these cars tanked hard, and noone is buying new ones. Elon had better put a bunch of quarters up his ass, considering how hard he played himself. [1] (in dutch) https://www.nu.nl/nujij/6353652/klemgereden-hitlergroeten-en... | |
| ▲ | toomuchtodo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Tesla once again tells its own CEO Elon Musk to knock it off with the politics - https://electrek.co/2025/04/22/tesla-once-again-tells-ceo-el... - April 22nd, 2025 67% of Americans would not consider buying a Tesla, new poll says - https://electrek.co/2025/03/28/most-americans-would-not-cons... - March 28th, 2025 Tesla sales fall by 49% in Europe even as the electric vehicle market grows - https://apnews.com/article/tesla-sales-recall-trump-byd-b6f5... - March 25, 2025 Tesla is done in Germany: 94% say they won’t buy a Tesla car - https://electrek.co/2025/03/14/tesla-is-done-in-germany-94-s... - March 14th, 2025 Australian Tesla sales plummet as owners rush to distance themselves from Elon Musk -https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/06/australia... - March 6th, 2025 (own several Teslas, won't buy another) | |
| ▲ | gdudeman 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This anecdote doesn’t match the data. It is definitely slowing demand. You can see it in the Q1 numbers and the discounts on vehicles. You can ask anyone who buys used EVs in Seattle. There is a glut of Tesla sellers and not many buyers. Like it or not, your car says a lot about you. People bought Teslas because they liked what they said and now they are avoiding them because they don’t like it. |
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| ▲ | gosub100 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | The fact that so many "climate activists" and environmentalists turned on him confirms my suspicion that they didn't think so highly about the earth or climate change in the first place. They care about partisan politics and their tribe more than the planet. | | |
| ▲ | josv 35 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Be wary of confirmation bias. I don’t find it unlikely at all that Tesla owners have sincere environmental goals that could be overshadowed by other concerns. Let’s afford each other the grace of being rational expected utility maximizers. |
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