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YZF 11 hours ago

This feels like a decent list. I'm not an American but some of these processes seem to be happening in other places.

1. Is all of us, on the "right" or the "left". Let's not do this.

2. Here you could say maybe the government is doing a little. But I would still say most of the lies and conspiracies that are reverberating in our society are not originating from there. This is like 95% on all of us (or social media). 5% you can maybe blame Trump.

3. I don't really see this happening yet.

4. I would say the "left" has been demonizing the right very effectively. But sure, goes both ways. This just seems to be standard for political debate today (it's the end of the world if those guys get power). I think it's mostly up to us to push back against this. So if you're a democrat push back against casting Trump as a dictator (I don't think he is) and if you're a republican push back against all this "stop the steal" and "lock her up" whatever nonsense.

5. Not happening IMO.

6. I guess Trump is blaming illegal immigrants for the rise in crime. I don't think is is a perfect match to the intention here. America is so multi-cultural/diverse anyways so this tactic doesn't really work.

7. Trump sort of does this but not really to the extent that I think the author of the list meant. So far it seems there's no fear from voicing dissent. Musk went ballistic on Navarro calling him a moron and is critical of Trumps tariffs. Many other republicans are critical. This is more of a kindergarden than authoritarianism.

8. Not happening. Would be very worrying if we get there.

9. Not happening. We had large rallies before the election but you don't see the sort of things you might see in Iran or Turkey. Again this would be a worrying sign if we get here.

10. Also not happening. You see universities fighting back against Trump. you see courts. you see states. you see people. If anything it seems people feel like they have a lot of power.

int_19h 7 hours ago | parent [-]

You seriously don't believe that pardoning people like Enrique Tarrio for violent crimes perpetrated openly in pursuit of political goals doesn't encourage violence?

YZF 33 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I've had to read up on him since I'm not that familiar with this topic.

I guess at some level? But in comparison with actual authoritarian regimes/societies this seems to be in the noise.

> Encourage or condone violence to advance political goals: Dehumanize opposition and/or out-groups to justify violence against them.

Again, I don't think we're seeing this happen. Has Trump given some extreme element a sense that they can get away with things they couldn't previously? Sure. That was also the case in his first presidency. Is this a society shaping phenomena. Not really yet. Could we be in a long term change that will end up with a non-democratic US? Anything is possible. Everyone needs to uphold democratic values.

Tycho 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is that Enrique Tarrio, FBI informant, you are referring to?