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| ▲ | SR2Z 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Yes but in this case, the dude in question was uncritically parroting Russian propaganda - as do most people on RT, since that's its purpose. |
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| ▲ | Braxton1980 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >everything out of Russia by anyone is part of some secret global propaganda network. Who has claimed all Russians are part of a large propaganda network. This is about a government news network. |
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| ▲ | Braxton1980 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The US government is also framed the same way on HN, though I don't like this metrics gathering method. Most discussions are of the war in Ukraine which also connects to US politics. It's going to be negative and treated extremely suspect because Putin is ex KGB, lied that he wouldn't invade, the war itself, and their influence in US elections. This is about the Russian government though. If your argument is that it's wrong in these constraints then I disagree but your generalization is valid. My original comment was about Russia as a whole but I think I wrong to try to shift to that as it doesn't come up | |
| ▲ | habinero 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Russia interfered with our elections and is actively hostile to us. It's not a meme, it's real. |
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| ▲ | gitremote 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| State media in fascist dictatorships don't reflect the diversity of their people. It is untrue that humans of any nationality have free speech and a free press as a check against their government's actions. It is untrue that any country's government is legally obligated to transparency that is required in a democracy. When people say that Russian and Chinese state media are propaganda, it is not always because they are racists. Many people say this because they make a distinction between a government and the people, and understand the difference democracy makes. It's great that you're trying to emphasize with people in other countries. Empathize deeper and think through how it must be like to live in such a political environment to their full conclusions. |
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| ▲ | keybored 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | The media in liberal democracies don’t reflect the diversity of their people. | | |
| ▲ | gitremote 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | The media in liberal democracies reflect the diversity of their people more than state media in a fascist dictatorship that jails dissenters, critics, and oppresses ethnic and/or gender and sexual minorities. Human rights, free speech, and a free press are the bare minimum before you tackle other problems like affinity bias in hiring. You are engaging in the logical fallacy and propaganda tactic called whataboutism.* If people genuinely care about diversity and challenging bias, they wouldn't uncritically view an unelected president (or an elected president chosen in a country without free elections) as the spokesperson for their ethnic group. * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism |
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| ▲ | shermantanktop 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sometimes focusing on each of the individual puppets distracts you from who is pulling the strings. |
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| ▲ | j4coh 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Why use a non-example to mention it though? |
