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Would you rather have a HFT trade go correctly and a few nanoseconds slower or a few nanoseconds faster but with some edge case bugs related to variable initialisation ?

You might claim that that you can have both but bugs are more inevitable in the uninitialised by default scenario. I doubt that variable initialisation is the thing that would slow down HFT. I would posit is it things like network latency that would dominate.

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hermitdev a day ago | parent [-]

> Would you rather have a HFT trade go correctly and a few nanoseconds slower or a few nanoseconds faster but with some edge case bugs related to variable initialisation ?

As someone who works in the HFT space: it depends. How frequently and how bad are the bad-trade cases? Some slop happens. We make trade decisions with hardware _without even seeing an entire packet coming in on the network_. Mistakes/bad trades happen. Sometimes it results in trades that don't go our way or missed opportunities.

Just as important as "can we do better?" is "should we do better?". Queue priority at the exchange matters. Shaving nanoseconds is how you get a competitive edge.

> I would posit is it things like network latency that would dominate.

Everything matters. Everything is measured.

edit to add: I'm not saying we write software that either has or relies upon unitialized values. I'm just saying in such a hypothetical, it's not a cut and dry "do the right thing (correct according to the language spec)" decision.

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Imustaskforhelp 21 hours ago | parent [-]

We make trade decisions with hardware _without even seeing an entire packet coming in on the network_

Wait what????

Can you please educate me on high frequency trading... , like I don't understand what's the point of it & lets say one person has created a hft bot then why the need of other bot other than the fact of different trading strats and I don't think these are profitable / how they compare in the long run with the boglehead strategy??

	▲	hermitdev 20 hours ago \| parent [-]
		This is a vast, _vast_ over-simplification: The primary "feature" of HFT is providing liquidity to market. HFT firms are (almost) always willing to buy or sell at or near the current market price. HFT firms basically race each other for trade volume from "retail" traders (and sometimes each other). HFTs make money off the spread - the difference between the bid & offer - typically only a cent. You don't make a lot of money on any individual trade (and some trades are losers), but you make money on doing a lot of volume. If done properly, it doesn't matter which direction the market moves for an HFT, they'll make money either way as long as there's sufficient trading volume to be had. But honestly, if you want to learn about HFT, best do some actual research on it - I'm not a great source as I'm just the guy that keeps the stuff up and running; I'm not too involved in the business side of things. There's a lot of negative press about HFTs, some positive.