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Art is always some form of human interaction. When we talk about AI music, I think we do not talk about art anymore, so this isn't human interaction as this isn't art too. The creation of the AI itself, could be considered as art, but not the outcome of the AI. We have to be careful in our discussions not to mix the things up. A lot of confusion happens in recent discussion.

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concats 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Personally I don't like to gatekeep art.

For example: If someone walks out into the wilderness and encounters a particularly fascinating rock formation or plant, something that was created completely by accident and without a artist or designer, but they find that the sight instills in them strong emotions or deeper thought, I believe they should be allowed to call that art.

Maybe this is just petty linguistics and semantics though, in which case we're drifting away from the topic at hand, and I'm sorry.

	▲	Aldipower 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		If someone walks out into the wilderness there's nobody to disallow anyone to call something art anyway. It's a free person. Hope you turned off networking then. :-) But as a society we committed on specific words to have a specific meaning and the process of _creating_ art clearly involves humans as creators.

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awongh 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The thing is that in this century the creative interaction seems to be moving up the value chain- it wasn't long ago that people would say that being a DJ wasn't creative. Simply selecting songs wasn't creative. Now lots of people consider DJs to be creative artists that are communicating something with their human will of selecting and mixing tracks.

Unless the whole thing moves to a random AI generated slop stream app, whoever turns the knobs of the AI that creates the music will become the new "artist". Right now it doesn't seem like the AI creator "does" anything, but maybe future people will think that.

	▲	Aldipower 3 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Agreed. This is a fair take. But I am still very skeptical. :-) When being a DJ you are still in the center of the attention of your audience as a human. "What's laid next on the turn table?" And also very important, the DJ is putting music from real humans onto the turn table. So if you go down the ladder, you still consume art from humans. With AI music this is only the case for a very small extend, the training set, and no-one recognizes the real contributors to the training set.
	▲	concats 4 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Great take. A mixtape can be greater than the sum of its parts! I believe that a lot of the judgement is also connected to the quality of the works. "Slop", while doubtlessly accurate for today, may be a rather weird description in a couple of year if the rate of progress continues to accelerate like it has. Although I've already heard people starting to refer to DeviantArt and the like as full of "human slop" so perhaps this is just modern language that's evolving and completely unrelated to AI.