▲ | concerndc1tizen 20 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Do you guys ever feel tired of 'sounding the alarm'? I feel like I've been doing that for years on a wide range of topics, but every time it's like you're talking to cult members. How do you break through to people? People say things like "you're overthinking it", "that's never going to happen", "I don't care because I like using VSCode and not alternatives". Is it individualism? That they only consider their own narrow short-term interests, and have become blind to collective problems? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | jeroenhd 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
What's the problem for people who just use VSCode, exactly? The software still does what people want for free, which is what 99% of VS Code users use the software for anyway. People who care about open source-ness have their own extensions to replace their proprietary C++ tooling, or they can use an open source alternative like Eclipse. I remember when basic features that come for free in VS Code cost thousands of dollars per developer, back when "update" meant "buy the new version (again)". I swear, people forgot how good they have it. The change that made the Microsoft addon incompatible with VS Code forks happened four years ago. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | npteljes 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'm at that tired stage right now as well. The way I read the title: "Company did company thing". Absolutely no surprise. The question is always a when, and similarly, I don't expect this current thing to last forever either: maybe they rethink their decision. Also, very often, the feelings don't correspond to the reality or the aftermath of the decision-making at all. For example, X seems to be hugely upsetting, but life generally moves on, and people are not that touched actually, as much as they protest to the opposite. This happens pro and contra issues as well; for example, people might hate Windows' latest X bullshit, but they won't change their OS in the end, or, pro example, people might feel like that stand by local production, but they won't actually buy local, because it costs more. What we are very blind to are problems that don't have immediate negative feedback. Comfort and security are huge motivators, especially when people have to let go of them. PR and propaganda (same thing really) uses this, among others, very effectively. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | anon7000 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
It's tradeoffs all the way down. VSCode remains one of the best intro editors, because it's free, has next to zero learning curve, and a robust extension ecosystem. I mean, what even is the argument here? That it's not completely open in every possible way? Do we feel so strongly about the heaps of paid IDEs that are completely closed source? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | wolvesechoes 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Man, it is just a code editor. Tech bubble remains tech bubble, when common, non-tech people are much more screwed, yet nothing is being done except saying "lol, just install Linux". | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | eYrKEC2 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
That's what "word to the wise" means -- you can't tell most people __anything__. The opening of Proverbs has: 1:5. Let the wise hear and increase in learning[...] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | hedora 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I just use the OSS vs code builds at home. (Work uses vscode). Ever since I got remote mode working, I haven’t noticed any missing functionality I care about. (I also haven’t tried installing extensions for the pile of commercial services work uses, and that I wouldn’t pay for anyway.) Edit: Since cursor now has near infinite VC money, perhaps they should fund a few open source devs to work on those forks. Why should they get a free ride? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | beeflet 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think the problem with "sounding the alarm" is that it's not a tsunami that will immediately wipe out everything, it's more of a slow flood. The business strategy is boiling the frog. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | yoyohello13 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I’ve just lost all hope and have rock bottom expectations. Probably not the healthiest coping mechanism. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | tbrownaw 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Meh. If it does eventually go away, it wouldn't be the first time I've switched editors. Which turns out to not actually be all that hard to do. > Is it individualism? That they only consider their own narrow short-term interests, and have become blind to collective problems? What collective problem, that someone might have to unexpectedly burn a weekend writing a new editor? That {emacs|vim} isn't popular enough? That people might have to go install openjdk in order to start using eclipse? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | Guthur 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think ultimately we're mostly just not as clever as we think we are, which I think unfortunately we must accept. Where this has become increasingly problematic is rampant materialism and corporatism. If the only real motivator in town, especially for the powerful, is material gain then there is nothing to constrain wanton greed. This becomes even more pronounced with corporations because their overtly stated purpose is not but greed, so even if the individual actors have some transcend moral compass they will be in conflict to their programmed imperative to "do their job". Currently many of the powerful are materialistic and materialism can bring worldly power. Other political paradigms may come to the fore but as it takes a form and gravity it will likely come into some dialectic conflict with the prevailing materialistic status quo. That may be a peaceful resolution, but I'd not be certain of that. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | mosura 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
And when it turns out you were right the whole time they will pretend no one saw it coming and blame you for the problem. You just have to let go of things you have no real influence over. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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