| ▲ | giancarlostoro a day ago |
| > > Standard mail forwarding lasts 12 months. You can pay to extend mail forwarding for 6, 12, or 18 more months (18 months is the maximum). That's kind of awkward when you consider people will find that address for source code where that license file just wont be updated for decades to come, if at all. |
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| ▲ | __turbobrew__ 21 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| We need DNS, but for mail addresses. |
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| ▲ | pdfernhout 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Maybe DNS for mail addresses is like a Post Office Box number? :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_office_box With 20/20 hindsight, if the FSF had used a P.O. Box number in the license, the license addresses would always be correct even if the FSF office changed addressed or (as now) was no longer maintained. Of course, the cost of a P.O. box over 40 years would have added up to thousands of dollars and that is less money for FSF advocacy. And time spent going to the post office to check the box would also have taken away from advocacy time. Another physical mail DNS-like idea is mail forwarding -- but it typically has time limits at the post office although not for private mail forwarders:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_forwarding
"Private mail forwarding services are also offered by private forwarding companies, who often offer features like the ability to see your mail online via a virtual mailbox. Virtual mailboxes usually have options to get your mail scanned, discard junk mail and forward mail to your current address." Although strictly speaking, these forwarding services are not quite like DNS (even if they do get at the idea of indirection). A true mail DNS would be more like a service you mail a post card to with a person's or organization's name and which mails a post card back to you which tells you what address to currently write to in order to reach that person or organization. (At least, if you write to that received address during some time-to-live window of validity of the address.) And I guess Encrypted DNS would be like you and the service using more expensive security envelopes instead of post cards? :-) | | |
| ▲ | vitus 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Of course, the cost of a P.O. box over 40 years would have added up to thousands of dollars and that is less money for FSF advocacy. And time spent going to the post office to check the box would also have taken away from advocacy time. To be fair, renting office space in downtown Boston also adds up to tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of dollars, every year. By comparison, $500 dollars a year [0] for a medium PO Box (in the lobby of the building for their new office, no less!) is a steal. [0] https://poboxes.usps.com/findBox.html?q=02196 |
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| ▲ | schlauerfox 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | CGP Grey, a youtube channel, has a video on some of the problems of the postal codes and addresses from earlier this year that I learned about alternates to my familiar US based system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K5oDtVAYzk | |
| ▲ | ajb 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | One thing I've been meaning to try, but never got round to, is to stick a URL on an envelope, pointing at a page with an address, and see if the mail (royal mail, in my case) actually deliver it. I suspect they would but that it would take a few extra days. It's no worse than some of the addresses that they do deliver. | | |
| ▲ | ayewo 19 hours ago | parent [-] | | What about encoding the address as a QR code? This should not require any Internet access to view by whoever is scanning it to be sorted for delivery. | | |
| ▲ | aftbit 18 hours ago | parent [-] | | It also does not help you to update the address later. | | |
| ▲ | giancarlostoro 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | It does if it leads to a web page with an address. What happens when all project maintainers die and the source code disappears? | | |
| ▲ | Sophira 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It does, but I think the person you were responding to was referring to the "This should not require any Internet access to view" part. | |
| ▲ | pabs3 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Hopefully it will never disappear, since Software Heritage and ArchiveTeam will have saved it. https://www.softwareheritage.org/
https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Codearchiver | | |
| ▲ | fragmede 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | Hope is not a strategy. As much as I hate crypto, something on the blockchain might be more durable. You want something that isn't reliant on any one person or company to continue to exist (though maybe the long now foundation will) and even if Bitcoin goes to zero, I think there will be some die hard true believers to keep running miners even past the built in 2140 expiration date. |
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| ▲ | solarkraft 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Even moving once has made the need for this clear to me, it boggles my mind that it isn’t a (common) thing. |
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| ▲ | 1oooqooq 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| since this is hacker news... i once had some trouble changing mail address from one supplier (they would send the materials to the new address, but insisted on sending billing/tax info to the old one) so i did the mail forward process some three times + their extensions (i recall it was 6 + 3mo or so)... it got me close to 3 yrs of reliable mail forward from the great folks at usps until i could get thru the supplier personnel thick skull. the only issue "redoing" the request is that people at the old address can block it, so be sure to talk to them first. |
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| ▲ | giancarlostoro 19 hours ago | parent [-] | | > the only issue "redoing" the request is that people at the old address can block it, so be sure to talk to them first. That's so strange, especially when you consider that for legal purposes, if you receive mail at someone's home, you are now a "resident" and it is harder for police to kick you out. Why would anyone willingly want your mail to come to your address. | | |
| ▲ | grepfru_it 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | Simply receiving mail does not make you a resident. You must establish residency and that is being allowed access to the home, the understanding that you are leaving belongings behind with the ability to access them later, how long you have stayed, and maintaining things like utility bills. A lease is a contract that clearly establishes the guidelines between two willing parties. Absent that, the definition of residency is typically delineated in your state landlord-tenant laws. Disclaimer: in the USA |
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