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The relevant fact here is contained in this article's subheadline, which starts with: "During testimony at Meta’s antitrust trial..."

He's saying "social media is over" because if it is then his company, which dominates social media, does not have market power and thus is not a monopolist.

The statement should be evaluated for what it actually is, the statement of an accused lawbreaker during a prosecution by the government.

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FinnLobsien a day ago | parent [-]

I actually think he's correct and the gov's case doesn't really correspond to reality.

It's actually true that social media as it was in the 2010s (when the Instagram and WA acq's happened) is basically over.

They're no longer social, they're mostly just media: apps designed to be portals into consuming as much content as possible, by whomever (so you watch more ads).

I'm not saying Meta is a great company or Zuck is a great person, but the idea that Instagram & Facebook compete with TikTok and YouTube is 100% true.

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gessha a day ago | parent [-]

> gov's case doesn't really correspond to reality

It does because if Facebook didn't monopolize the social media space maybe we would see innovation instead of blatant feature copying. Instead we have 3(4 if you consider Threads as one) platforms owned by the same company that push the same content - posts, reels, stories and actively try to unify and cannibalize each other. Breaking them down to individual companies will absolutely improve the market.

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FinnLobsien a day ago | parent [-]

But how will it improve the market? By making a less addictive (read: less engaging) app that does social media "the old fashioned way" where you connect with friends an not much else?

I love that intention, but it wouldn't be competitively viable. That's why yes, social media in that form is over. The reason Instagram and Facebook are valuable is because billions of people have accounts there and are habituated to go there in every spare second and look at whatever the screen serves them, whether that's Johnny from 7th grade math getting married or a snake being friends with a cat in rural Egypt.

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gessha a day ago | parent [-]

> connect with friends an not much else

Not necessarily. Breaking the companies up will foster innovation via competition. Who knows what will come out of it? Will it be better than Facebook burning stacks of cash on Zuck's latest fancy(XR/AI/?)? How long will the market be confident in his dollar pyromania? I will short that company like there's no tomorrow if I was in any position to do so.

This is more my opinion than time and market-backed statement but I don't believe addictive design is good for the long-term market positions of those companies because they may be addictive now but a lot of people loathe them* and are looking to escape from their design. They will jump on whatever comes next and not look back. What's good for the company long-term is to provide value to the user - local groups, FB marketplace, etc and become embedded in the culture and society.

* needs citation but it looks like the article supports this view

	▲	FinnLobsien a day ago \| parent [-]
		Sure, I also hate what all of this is doing to society and people more generally! But it's also fair to say he is actually correct in saying that social media as we know it is over and it's now about generic content consumption.