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▲ dxroshan 2 days ago

> A few months work by one guy and already more capable than the Hurd

It is no way capable than Hurd. It is a cool project though. Have you used Hurd recently? It can run a modern desktop.

▲donnachangstein a day ago | parent | next [-]

I searched YouTube for actual evidence of Hurd booting to a desktop and only found two videos of Hurd freezing during boot, and a third video of RMS explaining to a very confused convention attendee that he's "never installed GNU slash lynn-ox" because he could just ask someone else to do it.

No videos of Hurd running Doom either, but anyone is welcome to create one and share.

▲dxroshan a day ago | parent | next [-]

The programming interface that Hurd provide is similar to that of any modern operating system. So, it can run pretty much any program that runs on Linux or BSD, but you have to port it. Doom is no exception. If you cannot find a video of Doom running on Hurd on YouTube, it doesn't mean that Hurd can't run Doom.

Hurd is sure not a successful project, but it is a capable operating system. Linux comes with a lot of device drivers for all sorts of hardware, so Linux nowadays can run almost everywhere. But that is not the case with Hurd because only a small number of people are contributing to this project and it is largely eclipsed by success of Linux. But it is an extensible system so if you want support for a hardware, you can develop a driver for it. But nobody is interested.

If you haven't seen Hurd running a desktop, I will introduce you to Debian Hurd (https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/18i6e94/de...). It is a Debian distribution with Hurd as the kernel instead of Linux. It comes with Xorg and you can install XFCE, OpenBox. Basically, you can install any desktop that render on CPU. Desktops like GNOME and KDE need more infrastructure. They relay on modern GPUs and uses direct rendering. In Linux, we have DRI and Mesa for this. As of now, Hurd doesn't have any such infrastructure. As I have already said before, a lot of people are contributing to Linux and only a handful of people are contributing to Hurd.

▲k__ a day ago | parent [-]

If it can run nginx and node.js on a VPS it could be a nice alternative to Linux.

▲shakna a day ago | parent [-]

The current Debian/Hurd port of nginx is outdated, but runs fine.

There's been a few problems with nodejs, as libfuse compatibility isn't the latest yet. Some libraries work fine. Some explode. So you'll have to compile it yourself.

Python and Go, however, should run out of the box just fine.

▲blendergeek a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Its been a few years but I ran HURD in a VM and it ran a nice X Windowing system. Its been a few years though so I don't know what HURD is capable of today

▲anthk a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Youtube isn't an evidence of anything.

Set up yourself.

▲gertop a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Hurd is for sure a failed project and it can't realistically run a modern desktop as claimed, but it's more capable than you give it credit for. For example, see:

https://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/

▲amszmidt 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

FWIW, GNU/Hurd has been able to run a desktop environment the last 20+ years.

And as someone who portedgor Doom working on GNU/Hurd decades ago … I’m going to wager that the GP has never used it. :-)