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voidspark 9 hours ago

Just using common sense.

$4B is less than 1% of their revenue.

If they can grow their ad business from $4B to $250B (50% of revenue) then yes maybe I’ll call them an ad company, but I am talking about their reality today, and the reality of Apple for the past 50 years, not fantasy or fiction.

eesmith 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I think you are using gross sales?

We can see from Apple's 2024Q4 10-Q that "Revenue" is described as "Net sales", and that Q4 had $8 billion for the IPad, so about $32 billion for the year - comparable to the prediction of "$30 billion ad business by 2026".

Total net sales in Q4 was $124 billion of which $26 billion was services (where ads and Google income are placed).

The $4 billion was from a few years ago. The actual number doesn't seem to be published, but the numbers seem more like 7-8 billion, which is about 5% of revenue, not less than 1%.

voidspark 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Sorry I don’t understand what you are trying to say.

Apple’s 2024 revenue was $391 Billion. Advertising is therefore about 1% of their revenue. Simple mathematics.

"Total net sales" is $391 Billion. $295 Billion from products plus $96 Billion from services.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/pdfs/fy2024-q4/FY24_Q4_Consol...

Don't confuse quarterly with annual revenue.

Quarterly is just for three months. Four quarters within a year. Apple's fiscal (financial) year ends in September.