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norseboar 5 hours ago

> the list is very informative and meant to force the "invisible hand of the market" (its a pun, relax) to pay for better studies if they truly believe it is not harmful but studies are inconclusive

To make sure I understand right: you're saying a good way to run things is: publish a list of a bunch of things that could be true or false, and then if industry cares enough, they should spend time/money debunking it?

I think that would be an extremely slow/conservative way to run just about anything, and is not the way we handle basically any claim. I can see an argument for "don't do something until you prove it's safe", useful in some very high-risk situations, but "warn that all kinds of commonplace things could cause cancer until somebody proves it doesn't" is misleading, not just conservative.

And it doesn't even work -- lots of places have spent time/money debunking e.g. negative claims about aspartame, but claims about how unsafe it is persist. And it all comes back to dosage. There is no good evidence that aspartame, at the levels found in a normal soda, cause any issues for humans, but this gets drowned out by studies either showing effects from massive doses on rodents, or indirect effects (e.g. it makes you hungrier, so if you eat more refined sugar as a result of that hunger, then yes it's bad for you, just like more refined sugar is almost always bad for you).

1oooqooq 3 hours ago | parent [-]

you are still misguided that the list is utterly useless. i cannot open your eyes for you.

go for first hand experiences. you are still repeating others you don't know (and have been told told are authorities)