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> I can't help but wonder if there is any hope of this working for trans persons in the future?

why just trans? it would work on any male regardless of what they identify as if it were possible. No need for penis removal either, C-section would work.

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thrance 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

I guess trans women would have more of a desire to give birth than men. As one of the latter, I don't particularly seek experiencing child-bearing.

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throw_m239339 4 days ago | parent [-]

> I guess trans women would have more of a desire to give birth than men.

No, since plenty of trans men have babies. All these considerations would be completely irrelevant.

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throwawayk7h 4 days ago | parent [-]

Trans men having babies is not strong evidence for cis men having less of a desire to give birth than trans women. If you have the equipment for it, it's going to happen some percent of the time.

	▲	throw_m239339 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		> Trans men having babies is not strong evidence for cis men having less of a desire to give birth than trans women. If you have the equipment for it, it's going to happen some percent of the time. It's strong evidence that the desire to birth child has nothing to do with gender identity, which latter will be pretty much pointless by the time science allows human fœtus gestation outside the human female body.

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aisenik 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Unless the procedure has changed dramatically, it requires a functional vagina. Neovaginas are qualified but I would not expect most male-identified people to opt for vaginoplasty.

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throw_m239339 3 days ago | parent [-]

> Unless the procedure has changed dramatically, it requires a functional vagina. Neovaginas are qualified but I would not expect most male-identified people to opt for vaginoplasty.

First, male-identified people can be born biological female. It's an identity.

Second, the procedure doesn't exist for biological males to begin with right now, neovagina or not. A neovagina is physiologically not a biological female vagina to begin with anyway so I wouldn't help at all with the gestation. Birth can be done via C-Section.

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aisenik 3 days ago | parent [-]

You'll be surprised to learn that neovaginas are also possessed by cis women. Trans men requiring vaginoplasty and receiving a uterine transplant are the nichest possible edge case, your "gotcha" is pure distraction.

Trans women will receive the modern* uterine transplant operation, this I can state with certainty. Birth is done via C-section as a requirement of the UTx operation, the vagina is required for discharge. I haven't been able to pay attention to the operation for a few years, but it is clear that you are operating from uninformed conjecture.

*The first uterine transplant was performed on a trans woman in Germany in 1930, Lili Elbe. This pioneering surgery lead to her death, as transplantation medicine was not adequately developed at that point in time.

	▲	throw_m239339 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		> You'll be surprised to learn that neovaginas are also possessed by cis women. Trans men requiring vaginoplasty and receiving a uterine transplant are the nichest possible edge case, your "gotcha" is pure distraction. > Trans women will receive the modern* uterine transplant operation, this I can state with certainty. Birth is done via C-section as a requirement of the UTx operation, the vagina is required for discharge. I haven't been able to pay attention to the operation for a few years, but it is clear that you are operating from uninformed conjecture. > *The first uterine transplant was performed on a trans woman in Germany in 1930, Lili Elbe. This pioneering surgery lead to her death, as transplantation medicine was not adequately developed at that point in time. Not all transmen require a vaginoplasty, not all transwomen have had a vaginoplasty or even have the desire to do so. No biological male has ever birthed a child so far, so all that's speculation about what is or isn't needed from you is just that, speculation, based on nothing since it's technically not possible for now. The desire to birth a child doesn't depends on anybody's gender identity nor anatomy. Now stop trying to put people in boxes and keep an open mind.