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marviel 21 hours ago

hey -- I'm not sure what's got you thinking this, but I'd encourage you to consider that the way things seem when we're in emotional states (even long-lasting ones) aren't always reflective of the way things are.

9d 21 hours ago | parent [-]

Somewhere in the world right now, someone is suffering immensely, unjustly, and with no hope of relief. This is always true at any given moment. How can we sit back and be happy when these forgotten people die daily? And statistics indicate they're probably living next door to each one of us. The status quo is not good. Do what you will, but I'm not going to pretend this life is a paradise.

marviel 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Your original framing was "life is a nightmare".

My response was not "life is paradise", but rather a reminder that emotional states can vary your perception of how nightmarish/paradise-ish life actually is.

miles 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"I said ... that there was enough suffering in one narrow London lane to show that God did not love man, and that wherever there was any sorrow, though but that of a child, in some little garden weeping over a fault that it had or had not committed, the whole face of creation was completely marred. I was entirely wrong. . . . Now it seems to me that love of some kind is the only possible explanation of the extraordinary amount of suffering that there is in the world. I cannot conceive of any other explanation. I am convinced that there is no other, and that if the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection."

—Oscar Wilde, De Profundis

kbelder 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've seen this in some other communities... the idea that any suffering outweighs all the joys of life. That life is a nightmare because pain and suffering exist.

I'm personally more inclined to the idea that the joy one experiences can make all the suffering fade away into meaninglessness. Perhaps my wife or child will die before me, and it'll be painful. But still, better they were than were not, and I would smile when thinking of them.

I don't know if one approach can be considered 'correct' over the other... but I know which approach I'd recommend. It may be very difficult to change, though.

Trasmatta 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Having empathy for the suffering in both other people and yourself does not close the door on still finding at least some amount of inner joy or peace. If you can only have any amount of joy when every other living being in the universe is totally free of suffering, then you are doomed to never have even an ounce of happiness.

> I'm not going to pretend this life is a paradise

Who has ever claimed that it is?

card_zero 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Leibniz.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_of_all_possible_worlds

bowsamic 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why should I worry about that?