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78 points by ncruces 4 days ago | 16 comments | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I make a no-CGO Go SQLite driver, by compiling the amalgamation to Wasm, then loading the result with wazero (a CGO-free Wasm runtime). To compile SQLite, I use wasi-sdk, which uses wasi-libc, which is based on musl. It's been said that musl is slow(er than glibc), which is true, to a point. musl uses SWAR on a size_t to implement various functions in string.h. This is fine, except size_t is just 32-bit on Wasm. I found that implementing a few of those functions with Wasm SIMD128 can make them go around 4x faster. Other functions don't even use SWAR; redoing those can make them 16x faster. Smooth sort also has trouble pulling its own weight; a Shell sort seems both simpler and faster, while similarly avoiding recursion, allocations and the addressable stack. I found that using SIMD intrinsics (rather than SWAR) makes it easier to avoid UB, but the code would definitely benefit from more eyeballs. See this for some benchmarks on both x86-64 and Aarch64: https://github.com/ncruces/go-sqlite3/actions/runs/145169318... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | fuhsnn 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Wasm intrinsics look neat as a higher-level fixed size SIMD abstraction. I wonder how good the compilers can do if using them for AOT targets with libraries like simd-everywhere. string.h is missing strstr(), there's an algorithm of similar complexity you might consider: http://0x80.pl/notesen/2016-11-28-simd-strfind.html | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | phickey 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
This looks like a nice approach to making wasi-libc faster. Could you submit these changes upstream? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | cedws 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Would you consider writing some blog posts or other resources about WASM? I was experimenting recently with WIT, and ran into a mountain of issues. There's a lot of jargon that could do with some untangling. It took me a lot longer than it should have to put together this basic module, and even then there's this shared library I had to download to build it, and I couldn't figure out why this requires a libc: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | tuananh a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
very cool project. it's kinda frustrating to compile sqlite for wasm. can be done but quite troublesome. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | forrestthewoods 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
What is SWAR? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | nu11ptr 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
It is still a bit early, but I'm majorly bullish on WASM for multiple use cases: 1. Client side browser polyglot "applets" (Java applets were ahead of their time IMO) 2. Server side polyglot "servlets" (Node.js, embedded runtimes, etc.) 3. Language interop/FFI (Lang A -> WASM -> Lang B, like wasm2c) Why is #3 so interesting? The hardest thing in language conversion is the library calls. WASI standardizes that, so all the proprietary libs will eventually compile down to WASI as a sort of POSIX/libc like layer. In addition, WASM standardizes calling convention. The resulting new source code may not look like much, but it will solve the FFI calling convention/marshalling/library issues nicely. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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