It holds for other christian holidays as well, like xmas.

This is a tactic of zero sum conquering ideologies:

- you take the symbolism of the oppressed and make it evil in your ideology, ie. the pentagram as a symbol of health and women turned into a christian satanic symbol

- you take the oppressed culture's holidays and make them your own, easing the usurping, I know secularists and people of other religions who celebrate xmas "just because"

> I know secularists and people of other religions who celebrate xmas "just because"

At this point I consider "Christmas" a global secular holiday.

I put the people who whine about the religious aspect of Christmas into two boxes: Either they're playing power / politics games, or they're like the people who think that Betamax / CCS / ect were better.