| ▲ | jonahbenton a day ago |
| The silence from cybersec, with a couple of exceptions, about DOGE is stunning to me. Not this story but what I thought the headline referred to. |
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| ▲ | specialp a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| You see this in other areas too like academia being afraid they will get the ire of the administration and lose money. For a lot of firms they don't want to suddenly get their government contracts dropped by speaking out. This is how things slowly become more authoritarian, and freedom of speech dies. This is also why the gradual expansion of executive power was not good. If the threat of financial loss stops people from criticizing actions, imagine what it would be like if you would be investigated and jailed on sham charges like in some other countries. |
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| ▲ | jnsie a day ago | parent | next [-] | | > imagine what it would be like if you would be investigated and jailed on sham charges like in some other countries Some other countries? The US is renditioning people without due (any!) process ostensibly based on their tattoos. I'm not saying this to be pithy but to sound (or at least amplify) the alarm. | |
| ▲ | trw_speech a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | specialp a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Did I infer that I did not see a problem with that as well? This is the token whataboutism that plagues us. People with this mindset do not have any ideals like free speech or democracy, they just use transgressions that "the other side" did to justify the gradually worse things they do ad-infinitum. If you are for freedom of speech, you would see a problem with both, not just what was done in the past, and portray what is being done now as "payback" That is just pure tribalism. | |
| ▲ | arunabha a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I can understand your position intellectually. Certainly, examples of right wing views being met with hostility can be found. But I hope you realise that whataboutism simply perpetuates the very behaviour that your are opposed to. If you are opposed to conservative voices being suppressed, the surely you see the problem with the opposite kind of speech being specifically targeted by the president of the United States? If, instead you would like to see right wing speech being free, but are ok with liberal voices being suppressed, then isn't your position hypocritical? | |
| ▲ | shadowgovt a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | When did the Obama or Biden administrations cut university funding due to their speech policies? |
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| ▲ | ragazzina a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >what I thought the headline referred to. I thought the same. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1913023007263543565.html |
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| ▲ | EasyMark 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| plenty are, it's just major outlets won't do anything to stir the pot. the "both sides are the same" execs at big news outlets won't let them. |
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| ▲ | jeroenhd a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My feeds have been screaming about DOGE for months, until at some point it just turned into depressing cynicism. Nobody cared about the warnings from experts, and nobody cares now that their predictions are coming true. What's the point of speaking out now? Nobody will listen, anyway. I suppose it makes sense: for most of the Americans who voted, this is what they voted for. |
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| ▲ | awnird a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Have you considered that almost every worker in tech, indeed almost every American, supports what's happening? |
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| ▲ | const_cast a day ago | parent | next [-] | | If people genuinely support what is happening then the only two possible conclusions are that they have no idea what is happening or they are extraordinarily stupid. Because I am generous, I always assume it's the first. And, I can't fault them. They are under constant bombardment of propaganda and lies around what DOGE is doing. I mean, DOGE can't be honest to save their lives. So, of course constituents are misled. | |
| ▲ | jonahbenton a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | The idea of DOGE, of course! But over and over anecdotal conversations about the huge difference between mental model of what one thinks DOGE would be doing vs all of the reporting about what is actually happening- Elon Musk's "approval" is bottoming out for a reason, the town halls are angry and nearing violence for a reason. Nobody wants what is actually happening. |
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