| ▲ | asmor a day ago |
| My experience is that everyone who's not close to any of these impacts is apathetic or treating events like they're reality TV, and even light attempts at convincing that there's more going on and that we might be in a historic and bad situation is met with hostility as if you just told someone's small kid that Santa isn't real. At best they care about the financial parts of the news. |
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| ▲ | i80and a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| People only caring about immediate financial impacts is so deeply disheartening |
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| ▲ | phkahler a day ago | parent | next [-] | | I see that as a broad trend. Very very few people have guiding principles these days. The "problem" with principles is that living by them sometimes means going against something we want right now. People don't want to concede anything, even for their own ideals. | | |
| ▲ | ramesh31 a day ago | parent [-] | | >People don't want to concede anything, even for their own ideals. People cannot concede anything anymore. We are all trapped in survival mode at this point. | | |
| ▲ | lukan a day ago | parent [-] | | In true survival mode, you likely would not hang out around here. | | |
| ▲ | ramesh31 18 hours ago | parent [-] | | The people who hang out here are the lucky 90th percentile of our society that are just barely able to tread water at this point. Everyone else is drowning. Try to imagine living on $60k, then think about the fact that that’s a good salary to a majority of US workers. | | |
| ▲ | ryandrake 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | If everyone was truly drowning, there would be massive civil unrest. As usual, people in general seem to be finding a way. |
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| ▲ | DrillShopper a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | People want to be able to eat, not be homeless, and provide for their families. The safety net in America is tattered and torn, with the current administration working to remove it. | |
| ▲ | bognition a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Welcome to America where the only God is the greenback | | | |
| ▲ | ericmcer a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | It makes sense for our industry, a bad economy means vast layoffs and a terrible job market in tech. A tech worker who graduated and entered the market in 2012 could easily retire in their 40s with millions. One who graduated in 2022 is going to struggle to stay afloat and employed, and you are surprised people care about that? |
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| ▲ | CalRobert a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Some of us are scared shitless but have been called hysterical for years. Some of us emigrated. |
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| ▲ | throwaway984393 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | markbnj a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Like using a throwaway account to accuse someone of cowardice. | |
| ▲ | myvoiceismypass a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | And Congress is full of cowards afraid to offend their god-king. | |
| ▲ | ndsipa_pomu a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | It might be wiser to emigrate if you cannot trust your fellow citizens and neighbours to care about your country becoming fascist. If you've got brown skin, then you'd be better off leaving on your own terms rather than being exported to a concentration camp in El Salvador. | | |
| ▲ | RajT88 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Having light skin will not save you. It just gets you further back in line. | |
| ▲ | CalRobert a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Even if you’re pale you won’t get shit done if you’re locked up |
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| ▲ | roenxi a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | asmor a day ago | parent | next [-] | | You mean the guy with the federal dismantlement and looting agency that sends credentials to federal IT systems to Russia, openly talks about a third term where people "wouldn't have to vote anymore", crashes the world economy based on some dubious theory about the US dollar being overvalued being the root of crumbling US power and is currently testing the waters to deport US citizens into an overseas prison nobody ever leaves after ignoring a supreme court order for doing the same to a legal resident (the most legal residents, since they targeted those going through the proper naturalization route) is business as usual? Are you for real? | | | |
| ▲ | CalRobert a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | As bad as W was (and I started considering leaving after the 2000 election, but I was a minor) it didn’t seem likely that there would no longer be reasonably fair, even if flawed (with minorities disenfranchised), elections. I am no longer confident there will be a fair election, even in the midterms. And even W respected when the courts forced respect for habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees. | |
| ▲ | josefritzishere a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | There is nothing routine about what is going on right now. |
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| ▲ | pjmlp a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| When events aren't taken seriously, eventually "Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me" There is still time to react, in a year from now it will be like something like McCarthy, only worse. |
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| ▲ | belorn a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Politics and media has for the last two decades been operated on generating engagement through outrage, and it seems that we have arrived at the peak of what that model was able to do, with a very sharp decline into apathy. More outrage will not convince people to care. Even the financial parts had very limited impact towards political engagement. |
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| ▲ | ethbr1 a day ago | parent [-] | | A related change on the people's part has been decreased understanding of how to leverage their own political power. Congress-critters are concerned about losing reelection. (And of being primaried even in safe districts) Yet the minification of attention spans has confused the average American voter that they're impotent, when really they're just lazy, ignorant, and unwilling to muster real-world action. When's the last time you saw someone pepper a House district with self-made signs? There are things every single person can do, but just doesn't. And because of this, media has been able to turn political engagement into profitable passive consumption. | | |
| ▲ | ryandrake 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | > When's the last time you saw someone pepper a House district with self-made signs? Never, because it would be totally ineffective. Incumbents in Congress have about a 95% win rate[1]. For almost everywhere in the country, districts are what they are and no amount of hand drawn signs are going to change it. 1: https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024:_Incumbent_wi... | | |
| ▲ | fc417fc802 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but I think it's worth pointing out that you don't have to win in order to have an impact. It could well be that the incumbent retains his position because he made moves to address your concerns. |
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