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az09mugen 5 days ago

There is this streamer that does a lot of interesting language exploring on his own. I don't say you will find all the answers to your questions, but I think you will get a good sense of what you can or cannot do in jai : https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Tsoding+jai

sph 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Tsoding is great. Don’t be put off by the memelord persona, he’s a genuinely smart guy always exploring some interesting language or library, or reimplementing something from scratch to truly understand it.

estebank 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Don’t be put off by the memelord persona

One can be put off by whatever one is put off by. I've gotten to the point where I realized that I don't need to listen to everyone's opinion. Everyone's got some. If one opinion is important, it will like the shared by more than one person. From that it follows that there's no need to subject oneself to specific people one is put off by. Or put another way: if there's an actionable critique, and two people are stating it, and one is a dick and the other isn't, I'll pay attention to the one who isn't a dick. Life's to short to waste it with abrasive people, regardless of whether that is "what is in their heart" or a constructed persona. The worst effect of the "asshole genius" trope is that it makes a lot of assholes think they are geniuses.

sph 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Geez, no need to get upset over a recommendation. If you watch him or don’t, I don’t care either way.

I don’t see what is on topic or constructive about your outburst.

AlchemistCamp 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> If one opinion is important, it will like the shared by more than one person.

Sometimes nobody else shares the opinion and the “abrasive person” is both good-hearted and right in their belief: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis

Personally, I’d rather be the kind of person who could have evaluated Semmelweis’s claims dispassionately rather than one who reflexively wrote him off because he was strident in his opinions. Doctors of the second type tragically shortened the lives of those under their care!

globnomulous 4 days ago | parent [-]

Being abrasive is different from being a "memelord." The former is excusable and socially valuable and politically healthy, even essential. The latter is immature, antisocial, and socially and politically corrosive.

AlchemistCamp 21 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah, okay. I thought a "memelord" just meant someone who makes and shares lots of memes.

globnomulous 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Don’t be put off by the memelord persona

If it's a persona, then he's at best a performer and entertainer pandering to an audience that enjoys or relates to immature, insufferable people. If it isn't a persona, then he's just an immature, insufferable person.

No, thank you. Either way, the result is psychologically, socially, and politically corrosive and typically attracts a horrendous, overall obnoxious audience.

troupo 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can also watch Jonathan Blow himself writing a commercial game and developing jai on stream: https://www.twitch.tv/j_blow

krapp 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Is he actually doing that or is he doing what Casey Muratori's doing with Handmade Hero and taking almost a decade to implement a debug room for a generic top-down Zelda clone?

troupo 5 days ago | parent [-]

You can watch the streams and decide for yourself.

In a recent interview he mentioned they are aiming for a release later this year: https://youtu.be/jamU6SQBtxk?si=nMTKbJjZ20YFwmaC

az09mugen 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I did not know about this, I will have a look, thanks !

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