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szundi 5 days ago

This is what makes Java underrated these years. Some annoying stuff pays off over a decade several times. You can make insane complexity with ease.

ecshafer 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Java is a great language, and the JVM a great platform. I think that the thing which makes Java underrated isn't the language, but rather Java Developers. There are tons of great Java developers, but they are probably great developers in any language. But Java being the language of choice at so many enterprises results in a large number of very low skilled and inadequate Java programmers, who would be bad developers in any language, but specialize in Java.

kmbfjr 4 days ago | parent [-]

The JVM is awful. In 2025, it still arm wrestles with the OS on which it runs for memory management and still completely loses its shit should the OS decide to send any portion of its precious memory allocation to swap.

The language, is beautiful.

redeeman 4 days ago | parent [-]

dont swap

mabster 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I have mixed feelings about Java. It's a solid feature set, and I really love how InterruptedException was always a thing, so you can generally terminate a thread and it works (a lot of languages don't do this right). I love checked exceptions.

But the spooky action at a distance type annotation hell, needing builders everywhere because of lack of named parameters, poorly conceived generics, nullability not being first class, lambdas being incompatible with checked exceptions, etc. are a pain.