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otabdeveloper4 5 days ago

> Music has also become more accessible as time progressed.

Hell no. Before recorded music literally everyone was a musician in one way or another. Music was an activity you did while bored. (Today music is not an activity, it's a product to consume.)

They had simple woodwinds and percussive instruments. People weren't playing the church organ while waiting for the cows to come home.

Slow_Hand 5 days ago | parent [-]

Literally everyone? Have you got a source for that claim?

I don’t disagree that music performance was a pastime for many people before recorded music, but let’s be real here.

otabdeveloper4 5 days ago | parent [-]

There was no recorded or productionized music back then. And yet people liked music as much as we do now. So the only way to enjoy music was to do it yourself.

Singing and playing an instrument was just a basic life skill that everyone had back then. (Say, like driving a car or using a computer is today. Not everyone is a professional driver or computer programmer, but not being able to use a computer at all today would mean you failed at life.)

circlefavshape 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> before recorded music literally everyone was a musician in one way or another ... playing an instrument was just a basic life skill that everyone had back then

You're just making this up. Playing an instrument is a complex skill that requires a lot of work and an expensive piece of equipment. Music has been a profession since at least Mesopotamian times

grep_name 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Playing an instrument is a complex skill that requires a lot of work and an expensive piece of equipment

Or it's something you just, you know, do? I listen to and play a lot of tunes from the Appalachians and you really do get the sense that just about everyone played something back in the day. They developed complex and extremely localized traditions that did not require formal music education to pass down. Some of them were musical geniuses, many were middling, just like with most things people do.

Even poor families would often have an heirloom fiddle around to learn to play on (sometimes even brought with them from Europe), and ownership of family possessions was much more communal. Many parlors or bars would have a banjo or parlor guitar around for whoever wanted to make some music while hanging around. Those without access or with limited woodworking skill also often made their own fretless banjos (which look different from what you might normally recognize as a banjo) out of wood and hide, or other simpler instruments like dulcimers. Not that there weren't also semi-skilled luthiers making non-concert-grade fiddles at more affordable prices. All this culture is well documented in the Foxfire manuals on Appalachian folk traditions, complete with schematics on how to make those things from different regions. Pretty far from 'made up'. Hell, a lot of American music traces its roots back to music made by actual slaves. It's hard to think of a group of people with less means and access to the things you've mentioned, and yet, music.

Music theory may have a nearly limitless ceiling for both complexity of understanding and expense of instruments, but your statement here completely ignores the entirety of global folk tradition. And it does seem like an accurate observation to me that participation in casual musicianship in everyday contexts has declined significantly in correlation with a lot of the trends in modern living.

pxndx 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You've never played with a pen, finger or spoon hitting different plates and vases on your table and amusing yourself with the drumming? Twanged a ruler on the edge of your desk? Congratulations, that makes you a musician.

alganet 4 days ago | parent [-]

Yes. Maybe not a good musician, but a musician nonetheless.

In the same way, making a joke to amuse oneself makes you a comedian.

Making a simple BASIC program to amuse yourself makes you a programmer.

And so on...

metalman 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

little kids,(feeling safe and secure) will try and grab your guitar out of your hands,they KNOW they can do this, and just go for it, guitars bigger than they are, or watch a little, out somewhere, smitten by a street mucician, dont want to leave..,..yanked away....scolded... in Halifax, NS, there was a ukelele program, and ALL children partisipated and second page into a search, it comes up https://www.ukuleleintheclassroom.org/

kube-system 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> There was no recorded or productionized music back then. And yet people liked music as much as we do now. So the only way to enjoy music was to do it yourself.

Or listen to live music in your community