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MichaelZuo 5 days ago

Why does your individual opinion matter to Google (or advertisers or their markets) then?

It’s probably not even possible for decision makers to discern it from noise.

Dylan16807 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

The advertisers are the ones trying to claim that it's a win-win situation because people like relevant ads.

Pointing out that many people don't like relevant ads is then a significant thing to acknowledge.

You're acting like pclmulqdq brought up the idea out of nowhere, which is very much not the case.

What people think about ads does matter, and does affect the bottom line.

And it's just annoying for you to act like the dislike is just an "individual opinion" but the "people like relevant ads" claim isn't equally anecdotal.

MichaelZuo 4 days ago | parent [-]

I’ll be charitable, what is your actual argument?

In case you didn’t see, the user has already claimed to believe the entire comment chain is irrelevant, so your a bit late.

Dylan16807 4 days ago | parent [-]

They specifically said their original point still stands, and I agree with them.

> what is your actual argument

Was it not clear? Okay I can try again.

When advertisers claim that relevant ads are something people want, that's very far from being universally true. Lots of people don't want that. Don't let them use that unsupported claim to support tracking.

Note that the desires of advertisers are not part of this particular argument. It's a simple claim and counterclaim.

MichaelZuo 3 days ago | parent [-]

How does that follow? And why is your agreement relevant either?

Anyone can have an unlimited number of irrelevant opinions that they believe to possess this or that attribute, they may even genuinely believe so, yet it doesn’t amount to anything.

Even if the claimed argument was flawless… it seems strange to put a non sequitor at the beginning.

pclmulqdq 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

My individual opinion is (presumably) not unique. They also absolutely can tell who is a decision maker: around 2015, people used to serve facebook ads specifically to VCs to get investment in their startups. I'm sure targeting has only improved.

MichaelZuo 5 days ago | parent [-]

This doesn’t make sense as a reply, it’s not relevant how many others share your opinion, because it’s not aggregations of people replying to each other on HN, but specific users.

Each user’s comment has to stand up under its own weight so to speak

pclmulqdq 5 days ago | parent [-]

Cool, yours is as irrelevant as mine. The original point stands, though: not everyone benefits from better ad targeting.

MichaelZuo 5 days ago | parent [-]

> Cool, yours is as irrelevant as mine.

So then why did you reply if you already knew your comment and the rest of the comment chain was irrelevant?