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bityard 3 days ago

One Christmas, I was given a shiny new 14.4V Craftsman NiCad drill with two batteries. These were not cheap and I was young and broke and very grateful for the thoughtful gift. It worked great and I enjoyed it immensely. For about a year.

After that, neither pack would hold a charge long enough to be useful. Which I thought was pretty disgusting. Come to find out, this was basically the normal standard to which Craftsman had finally sunk. Rather than do the rational thing and throw it out, I held onto it with with a grudge and a goal of actually making it useful again one day.

A few years back, I found a decent deal on brand-new 18650 high-current LiFePo4 batteries from a reputable supplier ($2.50 each, sadly NLA) and bought up a bunch to remake the packs for this drill and a couple others I had laying around for similar reasons. I added an inexpensive but well-made BMS (which I tested thoroughly before implementing) and the voltage was upped to 16V nominal for a little extra kick. Don't ask how I spot-welded the tabs to the batteries.

4.5 years later and these drills are still going strong, I use them at least once a week on both small and large projects. They are not speed demons or torque monsters, but they drill all the holes I ask them to. Would I have been better off economically throwing these ones in the garbage and just buying the cheapest thing from Harbor Freight? Maybe.

But spite, it turns out, is its own reward and I would do it all over again a heartbeat.

xenadu02 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

The Ryobi lithium batteries I got with my first cordless drill bundle at Home Depot in 2006 still work and still hold a useful amount of charge today. And the charger I got back then will charge the newest batteries - not as fast - but they charge.

Pretty amazing compared to what all batteries were like growing up in the 90s.

maxerickson 2 days ago | parent [-]

Yeah, I have had a similar experience with a cheap craftsman drill that has lithium batteries. I don't use it a lot and it pretty much has a charge when I need it.

mitthrowaway2 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It might not have been Craftsman's fault; NiCad batteries are vulnerable to the memory effect, which means if they were not fully discharged when you recharge them, the maximum capacity shrinks.

bityard 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The "memory effect" of NiCad batteries is an urban myth that got supercharged with a dose of confirmation bias. Nobody has replicated the memory effect in consumer batteries. When people think they are observing the memory effect, most of the time they are seeing the very high self-discharge rate of 10% (or very often more) per month of storage combined with regular human forgetfulness. They charge up the battery, let it sit for a few months, go to use it, notice it went dead faster than they expected, charge it up again, use it right away, and see that it's back up to normal capacity.

In my case, Craftsman just used REALLY bad cells, Plus there was no BMS, AND they wired them all in series so that if one or a few develop high internal resistance, basically the whole pack was shot. Very bad design + very cheap cells = designed obsolescence.

kalleboo 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I thought the memory effect was basically a myth? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_effect