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happytoexplain 2 days ago

Wow, I've never seen the two-handwashings version of this complaint! Also, that remark about how people perceive you is worrying. Who are you hanging out with?

Seriously though, your opinion is common (maybe not majority, just weirdly not as rare as you would think).

I sometimes wonder about it, and I generally land on these explanations, in decreasing order of how common I think they are ("you" below refers to the representative of all people, not you personally):

1. You experienced a partial failure a number of times in specific cases (e.g. a fluke of loading/shapes where a spot just doesn't get clean, or maybe you were expecting it to accomplish the impossible task of cleaning a left-out bowl of mini-wheats). This soured you and caused you to over-compensate forever after.

2. You have very high standards for "clean" (e.g. faint streaks on glass is unacceptable).

3. You over-load it or never clean the filter.

4. Washers and/or detergent were indeed crappy, and are now better (maybe true, but I'm not sure I buy this as a significant reason).

5. You use detergent packs or you don't call for hot water before turning it on (even I'm guilty of these, and don't have issues).

ctoth 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Funny how easy it is to s/dishwasher/llm in this subthread.

> > The entire concept is flawed and can't possibly work and wastes more time than it will ever save.

> List of tips for proper usage

juped 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I just wash my dishes.

It's when visiting other people's homes that I encounter dishwashers and weird superstitions relating to dishwashers.

mathgradthrow 2 days ago | parent [-]

Superstition is mostly just holding beliefs that you refuse to test. You can find plenty of that among dishwasher users, but I think you've also demonstrated a fair amount here.

juped 2 days ago | parent [-]

The level of vitriol, and arbitrariness of the various rituals different people are absolutely convinced I must immediately use to see the light (I don't even own a dishwasher, lol), don't really inspire much confidence.

mathgradthrow a day ago | parent [-]

well, you do seem to hold a belief, that people with dishwashers must pre and postwash dishes by hand.

You could consider placing this belief in the open for people with dishwashers to contradict a sort of test, but you don't appear to consider it that way. Do you still think that everyone in this thread with a dishwasher washes their dishes by hand before and after they put them in the dishwasher?

You're accusing people who use dishwashers of a profoundly inefficient process. I think that you don't recognize this as insulting, but I also think that you derive a sense of superiority from this accusation, and if you are holding onto this belief in spite of people's insistent contradiction, then I think that this amounts to superstition and vitriol on your part.