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Thanks for trying it!

Could you explain in a bit more detail what went wrong for you with sign-in and the pin? Did you get an error message?

On OpenRouter vs. OpenAI, see my other comment in this thread (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43719681). I'll try to make this smoother.

On Gemini 2.5 Pro: the new paid 2.5 pro preview will be added soon, which will address this. The free OpenRouter 2.5 pro experimental model is hit or miss because it uses OpenRouter's quota with Google. So if it's getting used heavily by other OpenRouter users, it can end up being exhausted for all users.

On the cloud BYO plan, I'd say the main benefits are:

- Truly zero dependency (no need for docker, docker-compose, and git).

- Easy to access your plans on multiple devices.

- File edits are significantly faster and cheaper, and a bit more reliable, thanks to a custom fast apply model.

- There are some foundations in place for organizations/teams, in case you might want to collaborate on a plan or share plans with others, but that's more of a 'coming soon' for now.

If you use the 'Integrated Models' option (rather than BYO), there are also some useful billing and spend management features.

But if you don't find any of those things valuable, then the FOSS could be the best choice for you.

▲ killerstorm 3 days ago | parent [-]

When I used `--pin` argument I got an error message along the lines of "not found in the table".

I got it working by switching to oss model pack and specifying G2.5P on top. Also works with anthropic pack.

But I'm quite disappointed with UX - there's a lot of configuration options but robustness is severely lacking.

Oddly, in the default mode out of box it does not want to discuss the plan with me but just jumps to implementation.

And when it's done writing code it aggressively wants me to decide whether to apply -- there's no option to discuss changes, rewind back to planning, etc. Just "APPLY OR REJECT!!!". Even Ctrl-C does not work! Not what I expected from software focused on planning...

▲ danenania 3 days ago | parent [-]

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.

> Oddly, in the default mode out of box it does not want to discuss the plan with me but just jumps to implementation.

It should be starting you out in "chat mode". Do you mean that you're prompted to begin implementation at the end of the chat response? You can just choose the 'no' option if that's the case and keep chatting.

Once you're in 'tell mode', you can always switch back to chat mode with the '\chat' command if you don't want anything to be implemented.

> And when it's done writing code it aggressively wants me to decide whether to apply -- there's no option to discuss changes, rewind back to planning, etc. Just "APPLY OR REJECT!!!". Even Ctrl-C does not work! Not what I expected from software focused on planning...

This is just a menu to make the commands you're most likely to need after a set of changes is finished. If you press 'enter', you'll return back to the repl prompt where you can discuss the changes (switch back to chat mode with \chat if you only want to discuss, rather than iterate), or use commands (like \rewind) as needed.

▲ killerstorm 3 days ago | parent [-]

Here's what happened:

  1.  It started formulating the plan
 2.  Got error from provider (it seems model set sometime randomly resets to default?!?)
 3.  After I switched to different provider, I want it to continue planning, so I use \continue command
 4.  But when it gets \continue command it starts writing code without asking anything!
 5.  In the end it was still in chat mode. I never switched to tell mode, I just wanted it to keep planning.

Here's an excerpt: https://gist.github.com/killerstorm/ad8afa19b2f55588eb317138...

It went from entry 3 "Made Plan" to entry 4 and so on without any input from my end.

I could not reproduce the second issue this time: I didn't get the same menu and it was more chill.

	▲	danenania 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		I see, it sounds like \continue is the issue—this command is designed to continue with implementation rather than with a chat, so it switches you into 'tell mode'. I'll try to make that clearer, or to make it better handle chat mode. I can definitely see how it would be confusing. The model pack shouldn't be resetting, but a potential gotcha is that model settings are version controlled, so if you rewind to a point in the plan before the model settings were changed, you can undo those changes. Any chance that's what happened? It's a bit of a tradeoff since having those settings version controlled can also be useful in various ways. This feedback is very valuable, so thanks again!