Ah, I felt something like that must exist, thanks for the pointers.

I'm using Cloudron for 1.5 years and currently trying Yunohost and Coolify to try alternatives. But I gave up on Yunohost which felt too buggy and required too much workarounds and troubleshooting. I feel Coolify might be best for my needs but it's really for devs. Cloudron spoiled me so much everything else looks half baked.