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n4r9 3 days ago

Yes, London house prices would likely be lower. But we'd also be poorer on average, since immigrants are a net benefit to the economy. Moreover the combination of a starkly aging population with higher costs of labour would cause a real strain on the public purse, like Japan is seeing. On balance I much prefer the current situation. Though I guess I would say that, having an immigrant parent.

mytailorisrich 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Net benefit to the economy does not mean net benefit to everyone individually.

That's one reason that made people at the lower end of the payscale vote for Brexit: Immigration keeps wages low.

We're also seeing it since Covid: immigration keeps the GDP (barely) growing while the GDP per capita is decreasing.

The cost is wholesale destruction of local culture, too. London is a city in England but no longer really an English city, for example.

spacebanana7 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have an immigrant parent too. Also agree the UK - and Europe generally - would be likely in a state of Japanification without migration.

Still, I think it's valuable to understand the economics at play. Especially in a business context.

fakedang 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, you're already poorer, given that immigration has depressed wages significantly. Post-Brexit, EU immigration was only replaced by non-EU immigration which has a higher tolerance for lower wages and poorer living conditions. Something that I got to see firsthand a couple of weeks back.

n4r9 2 days ago | parent [-]

Immigration is thought to have a small negative impact on the wages of low skilled workers, but is probably financially beneficial for those further up the payscale.

> Post-Brexit, EU immigration was only replaced by non-EU immigration

Yes, in fact this was how Brexit was sold to many south Asian voters: your family will have an easier time moving to the UK.