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shmeeed 6 days ago

I'm just armchair musing here, and I'm definitely no expert on sound waves, but I wonder if they considered the fact that most airliners have more than one engine. Could the effect also be the superposition of multiple engine sounds?

Those have a fixed spatial distance, too, and the effect would (I suppose) change with the lateral angle to the listener during the fly-by. This theory should be pretty easy to falsify, because then the effect would not occur if the plane's path went exactly overhead.

nicemountain 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

For that, the pressure waves (sound) coming from the engines would have to be somewhat coherent, or correlated in phase. Since what we're hearing is essentially turbulence, that's not going to be the case.

jeffbee 6 days ago | parent [-]

Engines in modern aircraft are phase-locked, though.

mrob 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

The majority of the engine noise is caused by the turbulent mixing of the exhaust with the surrounding air. Turbulence is chaotic, so even if the engines are phase locked the sound rapidly becomes incoherent.

Toutouxc 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you have a source for that? I’ve heard about something that some twin-props have, but definitely not jets. The engines don’t even run at the same RPM.

jeffbee 6 days ago | parent [-]

https://www.osti.gov/biblio/6356085

It is what the "Sync" switch on the panel does.

Toutouxc 6 days ago | parent [-]

Yes, but it seems like no turbofan synchrophaser systems have been implemented yet. Only on turboprops.

https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/71738/is-engine...

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singleshot_ 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Planes also have flaps, slats, and landing gear, which can have a huge effect on the sound heard on the ground.