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> That said, 100% pure vibe coding is, as far as I can tell, still very much BS.

I don't really agree. There's certainly a showboating factor, not to mention there is currently a goldrush to tap this movement to capitalize from it. However, I personally managed to create a fully functioning web app from scratch with Copilot+vs code using a mix of GPT4 and o1-mini. I'm talking about both backend and frontend, with basic auth in place. I am by no means a expert, but I did it in an afternoon. Call it BS, the the truth of the matter is that the app exists.

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saberience 2 days ago | parent [-]

People were making a front and backend web app in half a day using Ruby on Rails way before LLMs were ever a thing, and their code quality was still much better than yours!

So vibe coding, sure you can create some shitty thing which WORKS, but once it becomes bigger than a small shitty thing, it becomes harder and harder to work with because the code is so terrible when you're pure vibe coding.

	▲	motorest 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		> People were making a front and backend web app in half a day using Ruby on Rails way before LLMs were ever a thing, and their code quality was still much better than yours! A few people were doing that. With LLMs, anyone can do that. And more. It's important to frame the scenario correctly. I repeat: I created everything in an afternoon just for giggles, and I challenged myself to write zero lines of code. > So vibe coding, sure you can create some shitty thing which WORKS (...) You're somehow blindly labelling a hypothetical output as "shitty", which only serves to show your bias. In the meantime, anyone who is able to churn out a half-functioning MVP in an afternoon is praised as a 10x developer. There's a contrast in there, where the same output is described as shitty or outstanding depending on who does it.