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▲ AStonesThrow 6 days ago

> GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us

.us is not the “root DNS” and your misidentification is muddying the waters.

.us is a TLD (Top-Level Domain) and more specifically, a ccTLD (cc = ‘Country Code’).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us

And the English Wikipedia says that its registrar is a subsidiary of GoDaddy named “Registry Services, LLC”.

The root DNS servers and registry are not run by GoDaddy or a subsidiary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server

They are operated by important entities. Not companies that release sexy commercials featuring Danica Patrick. I keep getting confused between GoDaddy and Carl’s, Jr.

▲bawolff 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think its clear from context they mean the .us TLD, and not the root zone, since obviously it wouldn't make sense to talk about the root zone for .us.

Its also very reasonable to use the more well-known name of the parent company to describe sonething done by its subsidary.

▲gjsman-1000 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲bo0tzz 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

That's not what they said.

▲bjt 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

.us is not a root name server. The root name servers are one more degree removed.

▲kowabungalow 6 days ago | parent [-]

Hence 'for .us'. The trouble with this form of pedantic is that the nicer way to interpret the misunderstanding is that the pedant is ignorant either of language or the structure of dns.

"He runs the Internet routers for our company." -> "Your company doesn't run the Internet" -> wtf?

▲fluidcruft 6 days ago | parent [-]

It was a clarification that GoDaddy's ability to fuck everything up isn't quite as broad as suggested.

▲jsjohnst 6 days ago | parent [-]

It actually didn’t help at all. Read the part quoted again, OP specifically indicated .us, not “root zone”. The registrar for .us (GoDaddy) is in fact the “root dns for .us”

▲AStonesThrow 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

> The registrar for .us (GoDaddy) is in fact the “root dns for .us”

“root DNS” has a very specific meaning, and you’ve misused it again.

Root DNS means ‘.’ and only ‘.’ There is no other “root”. That’s why it’s called “root” to be unambiguous.

In fact, in recent history, the root name servers use their own domain for convenient forward DNS resolution: ‘root-servers.net’ GoDaddy doesn’t run this either... Surprise, surprise!

> Your company doesn't run the Internet

Yeah well as a fragment, the statement makes sense, more or less, because there’s no “term of art” being abused there in your reductio ad absurdum.

Indeed you can run your own private root DNS, if you don’t want to interact with the real Internet, but your private roots are different from your private/hidden/split-horizon TLD. Another thing GoDaddy isn’t running. Did you know that GoDaddy doesn’t run news.ycombinator.com? Not even a subsidiary!

GoDaddy doesn’t run any “root DNS”, and they never have: period, full stop. [Pun intended]

▲immibis 5 days ago | parent [-]

The whole point of a tree is that every node is the root of its subtree.

▲jsjohnst 4 days ago | parent [-]

Exactly!

▲fluidcruft 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The original clarification was perfectly fine to and arguing about the correction is reply-all-unsubscribe line noise. There was confusion, it error corrected, move on.

▲jsjohnst 4 days ago | parent [-]

Yet you chose to reply-all-unsubscribe line noise further. Maybe take your own advice and move on bro.

▲fluidcruft 4 days ago | parent [-]

Necromancing an over two-day old thread to ask someone to move on is a bit rich lol.

▲jsjohnst 3 days ago | parent [-]

Yet you still reply again! Guess you put zero value in your own advice, got it!