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Markmonitor and zoom are both terrible companies so I can't feel bad about this

johnisgood 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

Since parent (autoexec) has provided links to all of these claims, do not let it go to the down-vote hell and disappear.

Why Markmonitor is terrible: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43712299

Why Zoom is terrible: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43712438

If you think it is not enough to call them terrible, reply to these comments as to why not.

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__float 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What's wrong with Markmonitor? They don't have nearly the customer base of Zoom (where I can relate to any complaints, I'm sure)

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autoexec 6 days ago | parent [-]

They've earned themselves a reputation for sending false DMCA notices.

https://www.inquisitr.com/markmonitor-sends-false-copyright-...

https://torrentfreak.com/record-labels-defeat-false-dmca-tak...

https://torrentfreak.com/court-dismisses-charters-claims-of-...

https://torrentfreak.com/hbo-wants-google-to-censor-hbo-com-...

https://torrentfreak.com/after-4-years-copyright-holders-sti...

They haven't even always been good to their own clients: https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-lawfirm-defrauded-right...

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voxic11 6 days ago | parent [-]

Can you explain what that last article has to do with MarkMonitor? To me it just sounds like MarkMonitor once bought a company from a law firm which was sued for fraud 5 years after the sale was completed. So it doesn't appear that MarkMonitor was in any way related to the fraud which occurred.

	▲	autoexec 6 days ago \| parent [-]
		Good call out! If Schlüter didn't continue doing work for DtecNet after the sale to MarkMonitor then we can't really blame MarkMonitor for the things he was doing 5 years later.

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nickvec 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Curious what your rationale is for Zoom being a terrible company? I don't disagree.

	▲	autoexec 6 days ago \| parent [-]
		I decided zoom was a bad company very early for security and privacy reasons https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-fla... https://citizenlab.ca/2020/04/move-fast-roll-your-own-crypto... The endless stream of news on privacy problems and vulnerabilities that have come to light since then have only made me feel better about that initial opinion. https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/08/zoom-data-mining-for-ai-te... https://www.tomsguide.com/news/zoom-security-privacy-woes https://cybersecuritynews.com/zoom-app-vulnerability/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/15/zoom_privilege_escala... https://gbhackers.com/zoom-security-update-patches-multiple-... https://thecyberexpress.com/multiple-zoom-vulnerabilities-de...