| ▲ | lelandfe 3 days ago |
| Just a quick heads up that the homepage video is ~24MB over the wire, even on a phone. That might actually be a challenge if someone's WiFi is down and they're trying to get support over cellular. (Huge kudos for this project in general) |
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| ▲ | Nick-W 3 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Thanks! It's actually much less for the bandwidth-constrained, I use adaptive coding. If you have the bandwidth though... That said, I know our page isn't particularly lightweight anyway, I've been pretty focused on expansion efforts and haven't had much time to update & work on the site. |
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| ▲ | snypher 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | This page was 9 seconds of white screen before the entire thing loaded at once. I'm on Starlink. Hopefully you get a chance to correct this in the future, as I'm really supportive of projects like yours, but if the page was linked from a top-5 article or something I would have hit the back button already. | | |
| ▲ | Nick-W 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Totally - we're not advertising yet and usually only dealing with very local traffic at the moment, didn't expect to get tens of thousands of hits from linking to it from a hackernews comment! The backend is an azure appservice running on a single low-spec worker at the moment, wasn't planning on enabling scaling before doing a hard-launch but here we are. | | | |
| ▲ | paulirish 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | First Contentful Paint at 12.0 seconds here, and I'm on fiber. | | |
| ▲ | winrid 3 days ago | parent [-] | | On my phone on Comcast cable it was like 3 seconds for me. | | |
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| ▲ | ctvo 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's a great marketing strategy. People without broadband access will truly feel it when they visit. | |
| ▲ | Coneylake 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Also was a few seconds of white screen for me. And I'm on fiber |
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| ▲ | buckle8017 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yes the white page with nothing else mad me think it was broken. | | |
| ▲ | Nick-W 3 days ago | parent [-] | | It's currently running on a single azure appworker, you might've hit it during a service autoheal/reset. There's a fair bit of overhead for every connection since it's designed for our subscribers to use and get realtime stats on their connection, was not expecting to get tens of thousands of hits by linking to it in a hacker news comment. |
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| ▲ | Toutouxc 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | 21 seconds from click to video in this old neighborhood (50 Mbps) in Europe. |
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| ▲ | refulgentis 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| (not OP) This nerdsniped me. 10 minutes later, and TIL: MPD is some sort of streamed-MP4 format; dash-mpd-cli is a xplatform Rust utility binary that can download this to an MP4, just given the MPD URL in dev tools. However I keep getting 1.5 MB and 500 KB for the two videos, no matter window width. Chrome on macOS arm64, 16" MBP. I'm curious what your environment is, if you don't mind sharing (also, trivia for audience: last week I saw a tweet that palantir.com was doing over 100 MB worth of videos, and of course, A) they are B) they're poorly compressed, as much as 10x the bitrate they need to be.) |
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| ▲ | Nick-W 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Frontend is full blazor w/hybrid WASM, almost zero JS, all C#. Browser DOM is controlled by the app service in realtime, I plan on using this as a basis for our subscribers to be able to do live traffic & link stats monitoring, among other things. | |
| ▲ | lelandfe 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Similar specs here. Here's a full load in a Chrome guest window with resolution constrained to an iPhone SE: https://imgur.com/a/xRjKWNb In the left panel, at the end of the video you'll see two important numbers: 28.5MB transferred, 40.7MB resources. "Transferred" is the (compressed) size of everything downloaded over the wire, 40.7MB is the ultimate (uncompressed) size of those. I don't show it in that video but you can filter by "initiator" to see that the video files are the lion's share of this. |
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| ▲ | EvanAnderson 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You are doing God's work. Thank you. I wish more people cared about wasteful bandwidth usage. |
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| ▲ | mmh0000 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well... To be fairrrrrrrrrrr If you used Ayva's fiber internet that video would download instantly =D |
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| ▲ | chii 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's not really the size that matters in this case, because the video is loaded after the page is completed, and in theory, ought not be slowing down the page if at all (my cursory examining of the network tab gives me a sort of confirmation). However, what is indeed slow is the initial load, and the lack of CDN for their static assets (css etc). When the HN effect started eating their resources, these static assets are what hurt their load time the most. |
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| ▲ | xyst 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Page doesn’t even load for me. |
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| ▲ | jen729w 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Yeah me neither from Australia. Hug of death? | | |
| ▲ | Nick-W 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Probably hit it while the appservice was healing, amazed at the amount of traffic it got from being just a comment on hackernews. | | |
| ▲ | chii 3 days ago | parent [-] | | I wonder if there's value in a method by which you slow down traffic by region, while keeping/saving resources alive for faster traffic in a different region (that you actually care about). Surge traffic such as HN frontpage will cause massive amounts of traffic to come in from all over the world, but because this service is only relevant to locals, it would suck to have hurt their speed/experience. | | |
| ▲ | Nick-W 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I can scale up our worker count as needed, but we keep it at a minimum since our Azure bills are already insane. Fun tidbit, there's a little counter on the bottom right which tracks live app circuits on the site, we were cracking thousands yesterday, normally it's ~5-10 at most. Did NOT anticipate having this kind of attention from a comment, and we were out climbing in Boulder Canyon when the bulk of the traffic hit the site. | | |
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| ▲ | Suppafly 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Xfinity's website is like that, it barely loads even using their service. I've had it time out several times, and had to start over, just trying to help my mom pay her bill. |
