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danenania 3 months ago

I think it depends a lot on how you value your time. I'm personally willing to spend hundreds or thousands per month happily if it saves me enough hours. I'd estimate that if I were to do consulting, I'd likely be charging in the $150-250 per hour range, so by my math, it's pretty easy to justify any tools that save me even a few hours per month.

mwigdahl 3 months ago | parent | next [-]

Or, increasingly, how the company values your time. If Claude Code can make a $100K/year dev 10% more productive, it's worth it to the employer to pay anything under $1600/month for it (assuming fully loaded cost of the employee to the business is twice salary).

charcircuit 3 months ago | parent [-]

Productivity and business value are not linearly related. It could provide 0 business value to make someone 10% more productive.

retinaros 3 months ago | parent | prev | next [-]

ok but in what way a terminal is a bettter UI than an IDE? I am trying all of them on a weekly basis and windsurf UX seems miles ahead/ more efficient than a terminal. that is also what OAI believes or else they wouldnt try to buy it

cube2222 3 months ago | parent | next [-]

I like the terminal UX because VS Code (and any forks of it) is not my editor of choice, and swapping around to use an editor just for AI coding is annoying (I was doing that with the Zed Assistant a lot).

With Claude Code I can stay in Goland, and have Claude Code in the terminal.

danenania 3 months ago | parent | prev | next [-]

One thing that is clearly better in the terminal is secrets management/environment variables.

It's also much easier to control execution in a structured and reliable way in the terminal. Here's an automated debugging use case, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-_76U_nK0Y

renewiltord 3 months ago | parent | prev | next [-]

After I have a session going on, the Claude Code terminal app has been given the permission to do everything I want it to. Then I just let it burn itself out doing whatever. It's a background task. That's the big advantage. I don't baby sit it.

ChadMoran 3 months ago | parent | prev [-]

Not a better UI at all but seems like they're able to then focus on what matters in these early stages and that's quality of output.

SoftTalker 3 months ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you still working 40 hours a week? If so, what's the difference?

kadushka 3 months ago | parent | next [-]

I don’t - if I can use a tool that saves me 10 hours a week, that’s 10 hours more beach time for me.

greymalik 3 months ago | parent | prev [-]

Accomplishing more in that 40 hours?

SoftTalker 3 months ago | parent [-]

And being paid more? Most salaried employees would not be.

_joel 3 months ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You get the same results for cheaper by using a different tool (Windsurf's better imho).

taneq 3 months ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How do you price this in? If you’re charging by the hour, paying out of pocket to reduce your hours seems self-defeating unless you raise your rates enough to cover both the costs and the lost hours. I can’t imagine too many clients would accept “I’m very expensive per hour because I’m fast, because I get AI to do most of it.”

otabdeveloper4 3 months ago | parent | prev [-]

> if it saves me enough hours

You're being paid to type? I want your job.