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v4nn4 3 days ago

The comment above is probably from a bot. You do need an extensive understanding of stochastic calculus to maintain quant models code, let alone explain what it does to regulators.

AnimalMuppet 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

The parent comment definitely violates the site guidelines.

kelseyfrog 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How can you tell? They're missing the telltale sign — the em dash.

v4nn4 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Good point. On a serious note, I probably overreacted, sorry about that. I have been working as a derivatives quant for a decade and thought the claim that stochastic calculus was not used/useful was ridiculous.

kelseyfrog 3 days ago | parent [-]

You're good bro. This is the internet; we're all here to have a good time.

bee_rider 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I hate this em dash meme. Yes, using a totally normal bit of punctuation is a sure sign that something was written by a bot.

kelseyfrog 3 days ago | parent [-]

How so? A human is more likely to use a hyphen, an AI an em dash. Same with quotes - a human is much more likely to use ", an AI “ and ”. Typography is a differentiating signal when it's used dis-proportionally more by one group than another.

bee_rider 3 days ago | parent [-]

Word processors (less of an issue for Internet comments, but worth keeping in mind) but more significantly iOS (at least) and I assume Android will just swap in an em dash where needed—it is automatic.

There is probably some signal, but be a good Bayesian; we have people saying “oh, this is a bot” when there’s a huge population of mobile users with smart keyboards that are the more likely cause.

Anyway, in general I find bot-hunting annoying. Comments should be handled as comments, if someone has made a bad argument, it should be taken down as a bad argument. If it was bot-generated, it is still there to mislead people. The advantage that bots have is that they have infinite patience and nothing better in their lives to do than argue, but there have always been people like that, so hopefully readers will be able to observe that persistence!=correctness.

kelseyfrog 3 days ago | parent [-]

I'm using a stock Android keyboard - it doesn't. Perhaps that's were our differing perspectives originate. I'm updating away from AI, and toward iPhone users.

EDIT: I plugged in my prior, hit rate and false alarm rates from before updating and found that my P(AI|fancy-em) = 0.09. After updating my false alarm rate, P(AI|fancy-em) now = 0.016.

bee_rider 3 days ago | parent [-]

Oh wow, it is a convenient feature IMO.

ogogmad 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> The comment above is probably from a bot.

Wtf

Is this happening?

bee_rider 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

People accusing comments they don’t agree with of being bots? Yes it has been happening for decades. Lots of folks are bad at arguing, so they make random accusations to distract from that fact.

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mdp2021 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, it happens that some people create bots and have them post in these pages. They (some?) do not pass the "naïve Turing Test" though: there is one that tries to speak like an "inspiring lifecoach" and has zero juice squared. Check the shadowed posts around...

And on the other side, I have been accused a few times - writing outside expected canon (of form and content) can be sufficient.

So, bragging I will say, accusations hit both tails of the juice curve ;) .