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| ▲ | nottorp 4 days ago | parent [-] | | That's not the average website, that's a corporate website or an online store. Why do you think all the average web sites have to handle members? | | |
| ▲ | bayindirh 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Give me examples of websites which doesn’t have any kind of member system in place. Forums? Nope. Blogging platforms? Nope. News sites? Nope. Wordpresss powered personal page? Nope. Mailing lists with web based management? Nope. They all have members. What doesn’t have members or users? Static webpages. How much of the web is a completely static web page? Negligible amount. So most of the sites have much more to protect than meets the eye. | | |
| ▲ | ArinaS 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > "Negligible amount." Neglecting the independent web is exactly what led to it dying out and the Internet becoming corporate algorithm-driven analytics machine. Making it harder to maintain your own, independent website, which does not rely on any 3rd-party to host or update, will just make less people bother. | |
| ▲ | nottorp 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I could move that all your examples except forums do not NEED members or users... except to spy on you and spam you. | | |
| ▲ | bayindirh 4 days ago | parent [-] | | I mean, a news site needs their journalists to login. Your own personal Wordpress needs a user for editing the site. The blog platform I use (mataroa) doesn’t even have detailed statistics serve many users so they need user support. Web is a bit different than you envision/think. | | |
| ▲ | ArinaS 4 days ago | parent [-] | | > "I mean, a news site needs their journalists to login." Why can't this site just upload HTML files to their web server? | | |
| ▲ | nottorp 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Why can't this site have their CMS entirely separated from the public facing web site, for that matter? :) > Eyeball optimization: Different titles, cutting summaries where it piques interest most, some other A/B testing... Any non predatory practices you can add to the list? | | |
| ▲ | bayindirh 3 days ago | parent [-] | | I think you were trying to reply to me. I'm not a web developer, and I don't do anything similar on my pages, blog posts, whatever, so I don't know. The only non-predatory way to do this is to being honest/transparent and don't pulling tricks on people. However, I think, A/B testing can be used in a non-predatory way in UI testing, by measuring negative comment between two new versions, assuming that you genuinely don't know which version is better for the users. |
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| ▲ | bayindirh 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Two operational requirements: 1. Journalists shall be able to write new articles and publish them ASAP, possibly from remote locations. 2. Eyeball optimization: Different titles, cutting summaries where it piques interest most, some other A/B testing... So you need a data structure which can be modified non-destructively and autonomously. Plus many more things, possibly. I love static webpages as much as the next small-web person, but we have small-web, because the web is not "small" anymore. |
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