▲ | weakfish 5 days ago | |||||||
Can you elaborate a bit more on the rationalist community’s perceived cults? I’ve only dipped my toes into places like LessWrong, so I am curious what you see there. | ||||||||
▲ | jcranmer 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
Rationalism is essentially a tech-flavored self-help movement, and the people who tend to gravitate towards self-help in general tend to be emotionally vulnerable people who are strongly susceptible to cult techniques (there's a reason so many cults start out as self-help movements). On top of that, given the tech-flavored nature of Rationalism, its adherents seem to gravitate towards strongly utilitarian ethics (evil can be justified if done for a greater good) and an almost messianic relationship towards artificial superintelligence (a good so great it can justify a lot of evil). Finally, it seems to me that Rationalism is especially prone to producing tedious writers which create insularity (by making it impenetrable to non-insiders) and lots of schisms over minor disputes that, due to insularity, end up festering into something rather more cult-like that demands more immediate and drastic action... like the Zizians. | ||||||||
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▲ | kelseyfrog 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/pQGFeKvjydztpgnsY/occupation... https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/MnFqyPLqbiKL8nSR7/my-experie... https://medium.com/@zoecurzi/my-experience-with-leverage-res... https://maxread.substack.com/p/the-zizians-and-the-rationali... The last link and especially the second half expands from examining the latest example into the broader landscape of Rationalist cultism. | ||||||||
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▲ | Workaccount2 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
Probably referring to the Ziz cult which was born out of the rationalist community, which recently murdered bunch of innocent people. | ||||||||
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