▲ | saalweachter 12 hours ago | |||||||
> Our forefathers would be absolutely ashamed... Well, like half of our forefathers. Maybe 30%. America has always been this weird combined project of Hopeless Idealists and The Worst People In The World. Our forefathers sought independence for freedom and self-determination and all sorts of other noble things, but also because many of them owned a bunch of slaves and were worried that was going to be outlawed in the near future. And then sought independence again a century later out of the same fear. | ||||||||
▲ | soulofmischief 11 hours ago | parent [-] | |||||||
That's a good point, I often use "forefathers" loosely when I really mean just the good forefathers, such as Franklin, Paine, etc. I need to figure out a way to be more precise about this without being too verbose. | ||||||||
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