▲ | wat10000 3 days ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
In a free country, private employers should be allowed to choose who they employ, with very narrow exceptions for discrimination based on race, religion, etc. In a free country, citizens should be allowed to read what other citizens write in public. Those both seem pretty obvious, but put the two of them together and it means people can lose their jobs or not be hired for stuff they tweet. How do you resolve that? IMO the real issue isn’t that employers can make decisions based on this stuff. It’s that employers are far too big. If we had 20 Amazons, getting fired from one of them wouldn’t be such a big deal. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | cduzz 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think you're missing the basic distinction between private parties and government. Private parties (including companies) largely have freedom of association. There are (theoretically) protections in "commerce" against a company discriminating against a person or group based on "innate" factors (such as skin color or gender). But largely, people and companies have a wide degree of latitude about what they are and are not allowed to do. The government, on the other hand, (theoretically) is largely not allowed to stop people from saying things or associating with each other, and when these prohibitions are in effect they're subject to both documentation and review. This is "theory" because the government has done lots of shady things. The government, similarly (and theoretically), is bound by a variety of procedural constraints, such as due process, right to see an attorney, right of the attorney to request your presence, right to a trial, etc. There's a categorical distinction between: I, a private party, am offended that I face consequences of offending someone else when I would prefer not to face any consequences. and I, a private party, am abducted by the organization in this country with a monopoly on violence and which interprets all laws, and I vanish with no recourse from anyone. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | freedomben 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I mostly agree with you. > Those both seem pretty obvious, but put the two of them together and it means people can lose their jobs or not be hired for stuff they tweet. How do you resolve that? If the employer happened to see it, then yes I think that's well within rights. But I think having some random stranger see something and actively campaign against the employee to their employer is a little bit different. It's not illegal, nor should it be, but there are plenty of things that are legal but still not good behavior. I would consider this under that umbrella. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | nradov 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Why should we make an exception based on religion but not on political viewpoint? That is logically inconsistent. There's nothing special about religion. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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