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For some reason Britain's migrant population is disproportionately reliant on government services. This is a common talking point in American politics, but doesn't seem a common one in English politics, but in England the data is pretty incontrivertible, whereas in America it's a bit harder to ascertain.

This is because America's alleged welfare queens are undocumented, whereas Britain's are there legally and the government actually has very good data on which groups are a net boon and which are a net draw on the economy.

I'm not a Brit and I could care less at the end of the day, but it does seem kind of bonkers to me to be importing people while your own country suffers.

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deanc 14 days ago | parent [-]

It is absolutely untrue that this isn’t a talking point. It’s all the far right and tabloid newspapers talk about.

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anon291 14 days ago | parent | next [-]

Fair enough. I don't see it on BBC or any of the british sources I read, and you'd think it'd be a pretty neutral topic, since the data is published by the central govt.

	▲	nvarsj 14 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It’s probably the main reason Tories got obliterated the last election. After it came out we had 1m net immigration (up from prior 500k which had already 2x’d the normal 250k net).
	▲	deanc 14 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Well the BBC mostly are reporting and have to be very careful what they say due to neutrality laws governing them. However, tune in to Question Time and you will hear these voices.

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xhkkffbf 14 days ago | parent | prev [-]

This is part of the problem. The venues that mention this are labeled "far right". The other ones try to ignore the issue because they want to pretend it isn't happening. But it shouldn't be a "far right" discussion. Everyone should be in on it because the consequences are so significant.

	▲	deanc 14 days ago \| parent [-]
		Venues claiming immigrants in the UK disproportionately consume resources often exhibit far-right traits. They rely on nationalist framing, selectively citing NHS or welfare burdens while omitting immigrant tax contributions and economic value (e.g., ONS data shows net fiscal positivity). The pattern: exaggeration, scapegoating, and "us vs. them" rhetoric—mirrors far-right strategies, prioritizing ideology over evidence. It’s less about resource analysis, more about exclusionary politics.