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Animats 21 hours ago

It's about how radio control toy servos from the 1970s work. Annoyingly, those pre-computer dumb devices with no feedback output still dominate the low end of mechanical output devices.

HeyLaughingBoy 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, but they're cheap and basically trivial to use. Cheap enough and trivial enough that they can replace solenoids in a lot of use cases.

One of my most amusing applications was the client who put an R/C servo on the choke cable of a carbureted generator motor instead of spending more money to buy the fuel-injected version. Servo cost about $5 and we were already measuring air temperature and had a PWM output available.

namibj 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Makes me wonder if the generic servos of the described kind are really close enough to the performance a cheap-class servo can have, or if modern advances in monolithic power stage ICs could allow a servo free of sliding movement (no brushes, no wiper potentiometer (maybe a capacitively coupled differential sensing of angle, or the tricks of the cheap digital calipers with their iirc nonius-like scale read through several parallel tracks of non-touching capacitive electrodes?), instead just a clever chip digitally controlling a brushless electric machine using the feedback sensing available to it).

Being able to run an even just very simple digital controller allows things like severely dropping negative feedback gain at a resonance frequency of the larger system. And so much more.

Animats 16 hours ago | parent [-]

The nice thing about using a potentiometer for position sensing is that you don't have to home the thing.

There are lots of alternative sensors, but most are bigger, heavier, or more expensive. If 1% precision is good enough, pots are fine. The next step up is Dynamixel servos, which have a nice daisy-chain digital interface, encoders, about the same form factor as toy-type servos, at about 10x the price.[1]

[1] https://www.robotis.us/dynamixel/