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echelon 3 days ago

I think there's a similar analogy here for products in the AI era.

Bolting AI onto existing products probably doesn't make sense. AI is going to produce an entirely new set of products with AI-first creation modalities.

You don't need AI in Photoshop / Gimp / Krita to manipulate images. You need a brand new AI-first creation tool that uses your mouse inputs like magic to create images. Image creation looks nothing like it did in the past.

You don't need Figma to design a webpage. You need an AI-first tool that creates the output - Lovable, V0, etc. are becoming that.

You don't need AI in your IDE. Your IDE needs to be built around AI. And perhaps eventually even programming languages and libraries themselves need AI annotations or ASTs.

You don't need AI in Docs / Gmail / Sheets. You're going to be creating documents from scratch (maybe pasting things in). "My presentation has these ideas, figures, and facts" is much different than creating and editing the structure from scratch.

There is so much new stuff to build, and the old tools are all going to die.

I'd be shocked if anyone is using Gimp, Blender, Photoshop, Premiere, PowerPoint, etc. in ten years. These are all going to be reinvented. The only way these products themselves survive is if they undergo tectonic shifts in development and an eventual complete rewrite.

dghlsakjg 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Just for the record, Photoshop's first generative 'AI' feature, Content Aware Fill, is 15 years old.

That's a long time for Adobe not to have figured out what your are saying.

echelon 3 days ago | parent [-]

Photoshop is unapproachable to the 99%.

A faster GPT 4o will kill Photoshop for good.

dghlsakjg 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Photoshop is a tool designed for the 1% of people who want that level of control for their vision. Adobe has several other tools for other markets.

Even the latest model from this week, which is undeniably impressive, can’t get close to the level of control that photoshop gives me. It often edits parts of the image I haven’t asked it to touch among other issues. I use photoshop as a former photojournalist, and AI manipulated images are of no use to me. My photos are documentary. They represent a slice of reality. I know that AI can create a realistic simulacrum of that, but I’m not interested.

This is like saying we won’t need text editors in the future. That’s silly, there are some things that we won’t need text editors for, but the ability of ai to generate and edit text files doesn’t mean that we won’t ever need to edit them manually.

echelon 3 days ago | parent [-]

This rhymes with still developing your own film.

I'm really eager to see how this pans out in a decade.

dghlsakjg 3 days ago | parent [-]

> This rhymes with still developing your own film.

Well, guilty, I actually do occasionally develop my own film.

Film photography is actually expanding as an industry right now. We are well past the point where digital photography can do everything a film camera can do, and in most cases it can do it far better (very minor exceptions like large format photography still exist, where you can argue that film still has the edge).

I think that whether you embrace AI photo editing or not has more to do with the purpose of your photos. If you are trying to create marketing collateral for a valentines day ad campaign, AI is probably going to be the best tool. If you are trying to document reality, even for aesthetic purposes, AI isn't great. When I make a portrait of my wife, I don't need AI to reinterpret her face for me.

overgard 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Not a chance. Photoshop is about having maximum control and power. AI requires relinquishing a degree of control in exchange for speed. Totally different audiences.

bmandale 3 days ago | parent [-]

Lol photoshop has been integrating AI features since at least "content aware" stuff was released. Photoshop has a massive audience of people who want to be able to edit images quickly and easily.

carpo 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I've been thinking about this a lot and agree. I think the UI will change drastically, maybe making voice central and you just describe what you want done. When language, image and voice models can be run locally things will get crazy.