▲ | jMyles a day ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
> It's not getting "better." It always just copied. That's all it /can/ do That's true of all the best artists ever. > They're just there to whitewash away liability from blatantly stealing someone else's content. That's because that's not a thing. Ownership of "content" is a legal fiction invented to give states more control over creativity. Nobody who copies bytes which represent my music is a "thief". To be a thief, they'd need to, you know, come to my house and steal something. When someone copies or remixes my music, I'm often not even aware that it has occurred. It's hard to imagine how that can be cast as genuine theft. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | apersona 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Ownership of "content" is a legal fiction invented to give states more control over creativity. 1. I hate the argument of "legal fiction" because the whole concept of law itself is a "fiction" invented that gives states more control. But I imagine you wouldn't want to live in a "lawless" society, would you? 2. Can you please explain how ownership of content gives states more control over creativity? There are so many way better methods of control a state can do (state-approved media, just banning books, propaganda) that this sounds like a stretch. 3. Alot of mainstream media is underdog rebels beating an Empire, and ownership of content definitely stops the spread of that idea. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | janalsncm a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
> That's true of all the best artists ever. Just to play Devil’s advocate for a moment, why should we require human artists to be held to the same standards as automated software? We can make whatever rules we want to. A human might implicitly copy, but they are not infinitely scalable. If I draw a picture that in some way resembles Buzz Lightyear I am much less of a threat to Disney than an always-available computer program with a marginal cost of zero. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | IAmBroom a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
OK, you're plunging deep into the ethos of IP piracy, and staking your claim that "None exists." If that is deemed TRUE, then there's nothing to ever discuss about AI... or animated pornography where a well-known big-eared mouse bangs a Kryptonian orphan wearing a cape. The reality of our current international laws, going back centuries, disagrees. And most artists disagree. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | dragonwriter a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Ownership of "content" is a legal fiction invented to give states more control over creativity. Ownership is a legal fiction invented because it is perceived to encourage behavior that is seen as desirable; this is no more true of ownership of intellectual property or other intangible personal property than it is of tangible personal property or real estate. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | kelnos a day ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Ownership of "content" is a legal fiction [...] To be a thief, they'd need to, you know, come to my house and steal something. That's just a legal fiction invented so people can pretend to own physical objects even though we should all know that in this world you can never truly own anything. Everything we do or protect is made up. You've just drawn the arbitrary line in the sand as to what can be "owned" in a different place than where other people might draw it. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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