| ▲ | kurthr a day ago |
| Yes, but to be fair we're much closer to rationalizing creatures than rational ones. We make up good stories to justify our decisions, but it seems unlikely they are at all accurate. |
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| ▲ | kelseyfrog a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| It's even worse - the more we believe ourselves to be rational, the bigger blind spot we have for our own rationalizing behavior. The best way to increase rationality is to believe oneself to be rationalizing! It's one of the reasons I don't trust bayesians who present posteriors and omit priors. The cargo cult rigor blinds them to their own rationalization in the highest degree. |
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| ▲ | drowsspa a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah, rationality is a bug of our brain, not a feature. Our brain just grew so much that now we can even use it to evaluate maths and logical expressions. But it's not its primary mode of operation. | |
| ▲ | guerrilla a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Any links to the research on this? |
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| ▲ | bluefirebrand a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I would argue that in order to rationalize, you must first be rational Rationalization is an exercise of (abuse of?) the underlying rational skill |
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| ▲ | travisjungroth a day ago | parent | next [-] | | At first I was going to respond this doesn't seem self-evident to me. Using your definitions from your other comment to modify and then flipping it, "Can someone fake logic without being able to perform logic?". I'm at least certain for specific types of logic this is true. Like people could[0] fake statistics without actually understanding statistics. "p-value should be under 0.05" and so on. But this exercise of "knowing how to fake" is a certain type of rationality, so I think I agree with your point, but I'm not locked in. [0] Maybe constantly is more accurate. | |
| ▲ | pixl97 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Being rational in many philosophical contexts is considered being consistent. Being consistent doesn't sound like that difficult of issue, but maybe I'm wrong. | |
| ▲ | guerrilla a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | That would be more aesthetically pleasing, but that's unfortunately not what the word rationalizing means. | | |
| ▲ | bluefirebrand a day ago | parent [-] | | Just grabbing definitions from Google: Rationalize: "An attempt to explain or justify (one's own or another's behavior or attitude) with logical, plausible reasons, even if these are not true or appropriate" Rational: "based on or in accordance with reason or logic" They sure seem like related concepts to me. Maybe you have a different understanding of what "rationalizing" is, and I'd be interested in hearing it But if all you're going to do is drive by comment saying "You're wrong" without elaborating at all, maybe just keep it to yourself next time |
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